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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Joe: Of Ice and (Penalty-Prone) Men</title>
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		<title>By: advomocyholla</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: calle06</title>
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		<dc:creator>calle06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that all of you were either too young or not in DC when GU did attempt to build an arena on campus.  And that garbage about &quot;bait and switch&quot; was a standard tactic of the Georgetown civic association to explain away their lack of support.  In fact, in response to GU&#039;s plans to expand, they started getting at least one building on every street corner registered as a historical site so that future permits would require tighter controls and buying up land would be impossible.
GU&#039;s first mistake was giving away land in the 70&#039;s to Georgetown Visitation, which would have been ideal for an arena in the 80&#039;s.  The second was achieving success at a time that the Georgetown Civic Association was feeling energized after shooting town plans to build a Metro station.  Third, GU is unfortunately not only hemmed in by the Georgetown glitterati but is also situated next to land protected by both DC and the Feds.
On the issue of VC - Caps fans (of which I am one, a season ticket holder and GU alumn) should be grateful that GU, even with its problems this year, is a tenant.  They drew terrific crowds during the most recent Caps&#039; lean years, helping to pay the note on VC, and thus keeping season and overall ticket costs down.  It will also be easier for Uncle Ted to do what he wants with VC when he buys it since the note will be paid down.
This is not to let Washington Sports and Entertainment off the hook.  But it would be a better discussion if we focused on the issue and not anyone&#039;s right to use the phone booth vs another&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that all of you were either too young or not in DC when GU did attempt to build an arena on campus.  And that garbage about &#8220;bait and switch&#8221; was a standard tactic of the Georgetown civic association to explain away their lack of support.  In fact, in response to GU&#8217;s plans to expand, they started getting at least one building on every street corner registered as a historical site so that future permits would require tighter controls and buying up land would be impossible.<br />
GU&#8217;s first mistake was giving away land in the 70&#8242;s to Georgetown Visitation, which would have been ideal for an arena in the 80&#8242;s.  The second was achieving success at a time that the Georgetown Civic Association was feeling energized after shooting town plans to build a Metro station.  Third, GU is unfortunately not only hemmed in by the Georgetown glitterati but is also situated next to land protected by both DC and the Feds.<br />
On the issue of VC &#8211; Caps fans (of which I am one, a season ticket holder and GU alumn) should be grateful that GU, even with its problems this year, is a tenant.  They drew terrific crowds during the most recent Caps&#8217; lean years, helping to pay the note on VC, and thus keeping season and overall ticket costs down.  It will also be easier for Uncle Ted to do what he wants with VC when he buys it since the note will be paid down.<br />
This is not to let Washington Sports and Entertainment off the hook.  But it would be a better discussion if we focused on the issue and not anyone&#8217;s right to use the phone booth vs another&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Sports Chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Sports Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The George&quot;- now that&#039;s a great solution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The George&#8221;- now that&#8217;s a great solution!</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retry as  tags don&#039;t work.
Frankly, why Hoya fans would want to get their panties in a wad over a post in a Caps fans blogsite is beyond me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retry as  tags don&#8217;t work.<br />
Frankly, why Hoya fans would want to get their panties in a wad over a post in a Caps fans blogsite is beyond me</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, why Caps Hoya fans would want to pick a fight get their panties in a wad Hoyaover a post in a Caps fans blogsite is beyond me
There fixed that for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, why Caps Hoya fans would want to pick a fight get their panties in a wad Hoyaover a post in a Caps fans blogsite is beyond me<br />
There fixed that for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in case you think I&#039;m exagerating about schedule and start times...here&#039;s what Alex Ovechkin had to say:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://stats.washingtonpost.com/nhl/recap.asp?lg=NHL&amp;g=2009020123&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://stats.washingtonpost.com/nhl/recap.asp?lg=NHL&amp;g=2009020123&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in case you think I&#8217;m exagerating about schedule and start times&#8230;here&#8217;s what Alex Ovechkin had to say:<br />
<a href="http://stats.washingtonpost.com/nhl/recap.asp?lg=NHL&amp;g=2009020123" rel="nofollow">http://stats.washingtonpost.com/nhl/recap.asp?lg=NHL&#038;g=2009020123</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m recalling the unfortunate incident of a Pens vs Caps game last year that got moved up to 1230 to allow NBC their game of the day television rights.
Don&#039;t know if you made that game..but it wasn&#039;t pleasant.  Especially with 3 Pens fans sitting behind me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m recalling the unfortunate incident of a Pens vs Caps game last year that got moved up to 1230 to allow NBC their game of the day television rights.<br />
Don&#8217;t know if you made that game..but it wasn&#8217;t pleasant.  Especially with 3 Pens fans sitting behind me.</p>
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		<title>By: HoyaCapsFan2</title>
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		<dc:creator>HoyaCapsFan2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;ll speak as a Caps fan.  I sure as hell hope that they have enough testicular fortitude to handle playing earlier in the day.  If that throws them off, they will be in trouble in the playoffs when they experience actual adversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;ll speak as a Caps fan.  I sure as hell hope that they have enough testicular fortitude to handle playing earlier in the day.  If that throws them off, they will be in trouble in the playoffs when they experience actual adversity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bucky Katt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bucky Katt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not totally sold on Caps going first...on the overlap.  Professional athletes thrive on stability/predictability of schedule.  Changing around start times affects that, althought I must admit...the Caps did do well in their last couple early afternoon game times.
I like your alternative on the &quot;George&quot;!  I agree, very creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not totally sold on Caps going first&#8230;on the overlap.  Professional athletes thrive on stability/predictability of schedule.  Changing around start times affects that, althought I must admit&#8230;the Caps did do well in their last couple early afternoon game times.<br />
I like your alternative on the &#8220;George&#8221;!  I agree, very creative.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy moly! Just wandered into the blog after a few days out and saw there were 30 comments - I was expecting building engineering discussions, but no. (As a side note, this reminds me of the Murky Coffee / WaPo/ Blogosphere set to last year.)
In my short time here the problem is that the VC ice sheet, system, Olympias, etc. are poor at best. Money needs to be invested by Polian and Leonsis to remedy the situation for the most successful (current) pro team in D.C. We can debate all day long about which team or university program is more impressive than the other (in order, since you asked, I&#039;d say: Caps, Skins, G&#039;town, Wizards, Nats), but G&#039;town playing at the VC isn&#039;t what&#039;s causing the Caps to play on the worst ice in the NHL. Don&#039;t the Wizards and Caps occassionally overlap on the schedule? Where&#039;s the vile for them?
I&#039;d love to see a new, loud, packed facility on G&#039;town - that would make the game atmosphere great.
I think Caps fans (me) should be a little less likely to posit that AO would be recognized on the streets of D.C. I also think Hoya fans should also realize that aside from Patrick Ewing or John Thompson - the only way someone would know a Hoya from me would be height.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy moly! Just wandered into the blog after a few days out and saw there were 30 comments &#8211; I was expecting building engineering discussions, but no. (As a side note, this reminds me of the Murky Coffee / WaPo/ Blogosphere set to last year.)<br />
In my short time here the problem is that the VC ice sheet, system, Olympias, etc. are poor at best. Money needs to be invested by Polian and Leonsis to remedy the situation for the most successful (current) pro team in D.C. We can debate all day long about which team or university program is more impressive than the other (in order, since you asked, I&#8217;d say: Caps, Skins, G&#8217;town, Wizards, Nats), but G&#8217;town playing at the VC isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s causing the Caps to play on the worst ice in the NHL. Don&#8217;t the Wizards and Caps occassionally overlap on the schedule? Where&#8217;s the vile for them?<br />
I&#8217;d love to see a new, loud, packed facility on G&#8217;town &#8211; that would make the game atmosphere great.<br />
I think Caps fans (me) should be a little less likely to posit that AO would be recognized on the streets of D.C. I also think Hoya fans should also realize that aside from Patrick Ewing or John Thompson &#8211; the only way someone would know a Hoya from me would be height.</p>
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