08 February, 2012


A Philly Fan's Wisdom

I know — not a headline you might expect here. But Travis Hughes of the blog Broad and Pattison has proposed what, for my money, is the best NHL realignment proposal yet. 

He, like we did earlier this week, posits that the only real way to reignite a two-way rivalry between the Flyers and Capitals is to put the two teams in the same division. But he does not suggest contraction or relocation of current teams — nor does he restrict his proposal to the current conference structure. Instead, his post A Flyers/Caps Rivalry Can Work, If… resurrects some classic division names and establishes four total divisions in two new conferences (as illustrated by a pretty cool graphic halfway down the page).

His proposal also addresses the playoff imbalance of a weak-division winner getting an automatic top seed, since there would only be 2 divisions in each conference. Plus he does away with the artificial East & West concept completely — something that forces goofy alignments contrary to the geographical concept. For instance, there’s nothing Western about Detroit, and I suspect sharing a division with teams like Toronto (while keeping Chicago) would make everyone happy. Well, except Toronto perhaps.

The only change I would suggest would be to include Minnesota in the new “Adams Division”, thus balancing the conferences with 15 teams each.

But the Wild move is a minor quibble; check out his article for an innovative solution to the NHL’s lingering alignment problem.



12 Comments

  1. JoshC wrote:

    You need to move Minnesota to the Adams to make it slightly more geographically sensible, but that only exacerbates the “Real NHL Conference” and “Outlanders Conference” appearance of this alignment.
    Sticking all 6 Original Six teams in one conference? How convenient for that half of the league, and how lousy for the Outlanders’ gate receipts.

    12 January, 2009 at 4:25 pm | Permalink
  2. Dan V wrote:

    He conveniently dismisses the uneven number in conference and division members. Sure, it’s easy to say “suck it up and deal,” but that’s not how it would work. Moving Minny to the “Northeast” conference would solve half of it, but you can’t have 4 teams from a each division make it when the divisions are uneven, either. That’s easily solved, too, by giving 2 automatic bids for each division then 4 “wild card” bids, with the division winners getting the top 2 seeds.
    JoshC does bring up the most salient point, though, if there isn’t much more breadth to revenue sharing there is no chance teams would sign on to losing their big ticket draws.
    -d

    12 January, 2009 at 4:47 pm | Permalink
  3. Stratocaps wrote:

    I really struggle to consider this suggestion with a rational mind.
    I’ve never been able to embrace the Southeast division, and I’d break the sound barrier to get back some of that old Patrick division venom.

    12 January, 2009 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
  4. OrderedChaos (Mike Rucki) wrote:

    I see no problem with 7 teams in one division and 8 in the other — MLB seems to deal with it just fine, and far fewer teams make the playoffs in baseball than in hockey.
    Josh’s point is a good one though, and one I hadn’t thought of: all Original Six in one conference would be pretty rough on the other conference, and offhand there’s no easy solution for that problem.

    12 January, 2009 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
  5. Paul wrote:

    Biggest problem, florida gets screwed on travel, other than that, it is almost completely geographic still.

    12 January, 2009 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
  6. jen wrote:

    I like this plan simply because it brings back the historic names that made hockey so different and personal. Expansion wasn’t the trouble. Realignment wasn’t the trouble. Ignoring Messrs. Adams, Campbell, Norris, Patrick, and Smythe (and the prince of Wales) was the true disgrace.

    12 January, 2009 at 9:28 pm | Permalink
  7. The Peerless wrote:

    With a little tweaking, you could even accommodate expansion and make for a 4×8 arrangement…
    Move Buffalo to the Patrick (makes for a complete NY set of rivalries) and complete their eight-team division.
    Move St. Louis and Minnesota to the Adams to complete that eight-team group.
    Add Kansas City franchise to the Smythe; move Colorado to the Smythe.
    Add Las Vegas to the Norris.
    The result:
    Prince of Wales Conference (14 teams)
    Patrick Division (8 teams)
    Philadelphia Flyers
    New York Rangers
    New York Islanders
    New Jersey Devils
    Pittsburgh Penguins
    Washington Capitals
    Boston Bruins
    Buffalo Sabres
    Adams Division (8 teams)
    Montreal Canadiens
    Ottawa Senators
    Toronto Maple Leafs
    Detroit Red Wings
    Chicago Blackhawks
    Columbus Blue Jackets
    St. Louis Blues
    Minnesota Wild
    Clarence Campbell Conference (16 teams)
    Norris Division (8 teams)
    San Jose Sharks
    Calgary Flames
    Edmonton Oilers
    Los Angeles Kings
    Anaheim Ducks
    Phoenix Coyotes
    Vancouver Canucks
    Las Vegas Ice Scorpions (humor me)
    Smythe Division (8 teams)
    Nashville Predators
    Atlanta Thrashers
    Tampa Bay Lightning
    Florida Panthers
    Dallas Stars
    Carolina Hurricanes
    Kansas City Scouts
    Colorado Avalanche
    Is it perfect?…no. But is the current distribution of teams and the antiseptic geographic nomenclature better?

    12 January, 2009 at 11:31 pm | Permalink
  8. Schultz wrote:

    While I certainly would love to see the return to the classic names, I think we’re all deluding ourselves that this would ever happen. Having a “Smythe Division” instead of a “Pacific Division” (another quibble, the two division names in the Campbell are backwards, IMHO.) repels new fans. Its makes hockey seem more mysterious to those who don’t already follow the game (and its not like its the most popular sport in the “Smythe Division” terrtitory anyway).

    13 January, 2009 at 10:37 am | Permalink
  9. pelle31lives wrote:

    I like the return to the four-division system. I like the historical names to return (but in their proper places) and I like the playoff system to be tweaked.
    With 30 teams divided unequally, no matter what, some team is going to get screwed with travel within its own division. That’s what happens when you open up geographic possibilities by reducing the number of groupings. Also, there will be a wickedly unbalanced schedule trying to shoehorn 30 teams in four divisions within 80, 82, or even 84 games a year.
    Currently, I’d be in favor of either a 1-8, 2-7 playoff seeding within each conference based on record and not division standing. I’d even go for a 1-16 seeding regardless of conference to spice things up.

    13 January, 2009 at 4:26 pm | Permalink
  10. pelle31lives wrote:

    I like the return to the four-division system. I like the historical names to return (but in their proper places) and I like the playoff system to be tweaked.
    With 30 teams divided unequally, no matter what, some team is going to get screwed with travel within its own division. That’s what happens when you open up geographic possibilities by reducing the number of groupings. Also, there will be a wickedly unbalanced schedule trying to shoehorn 30 teams in four divisions within 80, 82, or even 84 games a year.
    Currently, I’d be in favor of a 1-8, 2-7 playoff seeding within each conference based on record and not division standing. I’d even go for a 1-16 seeding regardless of conference to spice things up.

    13 January, 2009 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
  11. Jason wrote:

    I like the idea, but the East (I like Wales, but come on, they won’t go back to that for at least the conferences) is going to benefit a ton. The Smythe division looks atrocious on paper. Dallas and Colorado might get excited at the competitive prospects, but I think their fans would really hate it (not unlike the Caps’ for being stuck in the Southeast).

    13 January, 2009 at 5:47 pm | Permalink
  12. uncatim wrote:

    I like the idea, but if it comes from a flyers fan there must be something wrong.

    14 January, 2009 at 12:42 am | Permalink

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