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	<title>Comments on: An Unfathomable Scandal Sends the Home Team Packing for the Summer</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Grow Up</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138484</link>
		<dc:creator>Grow Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, Jed.  I don't know anything about playing hockey.  In fact, I don't know anything about hockey at all.  I've never strapped on a pair of skates, I'm not a loyal season ticket holder, I don't ever discuss issues like this with hockey players, nor do I read Tarik, Corey, the Hockey News or blogs like this one.  You've got me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Jed.  I don&#8217;t know anything about playing hockey.  In fact, I don&#8217;t know anything about hockey at all.  I&#8217;ve never strapped on a pair of skates, I&#8217;m not a loyal season ticket holder, I don&#8217;t ever discuss issues like this with hockey players, nor do I read Tarik, Corey, the Hockey News or blogs like this one.  You&#8217;ve got me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, i do agree to some extent.  The officiating was embarrassing for most of the season, especially in the playoffs for both teams...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, i do agree to some extent.  The officiating was embarrassing for most of the season, especially in the playoffs for both teams&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is bull, the two teams may have played on the same ice, but they play completely different styles.  The caps play - when they are at their best - a very precise and fast game.  It doesn't matter how used to the ice they are, if you don't know whether the puck is going to suddenly jump over your stick at the last second, you can know how to receive a pass...  On the other hand, the flyers play a nitty gritty style that relies on lucky bounces and crashing the net, which isn't something that you need good ice for.

Saying that the caps have the advantage just because it's their home ice and they should be used to it only shows that you don't have any experience playing hockey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is bull, the two teams may have played on the same ice, but they play completely different styles.  The caps play - when they are at their best - a very precise and fast game.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how used to the ice they are, if you don&#8217;t know whether the puck is going to suddenly jump over your stick at the last second, you can know how to receive a pass&#8230;  On the other hand, the flyers play a nitty gritty style that relies on lucky bounces and crashing the net, which isn&#8217;t something that you need good ice for.</p>
<p>Saying that the caps have the advantage just because it&#8217;s their home ice and they should be used to it only shows that you don&#8217;t have any experience playing hockey!</p>
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		<title>By: Grow Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grow Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, people.  Both teams had to play on the same sheet of ice for Game 7.  If anything, the Caps had the advantage because they have gotten used to playing on a crappy surface and know how to adjust.  We got beat - plain and simple.  The officiating was more of a problem than the ice was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, people.  Both teams had to play on the same sheet of ice for Game 7.  If anything, the Caps had the advantage because they have gotten used to playing on a crappy surface and know how to adjust.  We got beat - plain and simple.  The officiating was more of a problem than the ice was.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138399</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Caps have always taken second place in this town and especially to the Wiz, everybody remember the 03 Easter Sunday playoff game? I still think that was Abe P's doing to draw more to B'ball the night before--schedules can and are changable even in the NBA.

I'm up in the 400's and I can see the puddles and have all year. We have a great thing started here again; hopefully the ice gets some attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Caps have always taken second place in this town and especially to the Wiz, everybody remember the 03 Easter Sunday playoff game? I still think that was Abe P&#8217;s doing to draw more to B&#8217;ball the night before&#8211;schedules can and are changable even in the NBA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m up in the 400&#8217;s and I can see the puddles and have all year. We have a great thing started here again; hopefully the ice gets some attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Jazz</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138373</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know whether this is necessarily "shocking," but I do agree.  The ice has looked inexcusably bad during the entirety of the season, but even more so during the spring.

I don't care that the circus is in town, or that the Wizards had a game the night before.  When a team that relies on talent and puck movement isn't getting the job done because of the ice, why not just play Devils or Flyers hockey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether this is necessarily &#8220;shocking,&#8221; but I do agree.  The ice has looked inexcusably bad during the entirety of the season, but even more so during the spring.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that the circus is in town, or that the Wizards had a game the night before.  When a team that relies on talent and puck movement isn&#8217;t getting the job done because of the ice, why not just play Devils or Flyers hockey?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As not only a die hard Caps fan but someone considering season tickets for the first time, I feel this absolutely MUST be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As not only a die hard Caps fan but someone considering season tickets for the first time, I feel this absolutely MUST be addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138148</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, changing one's mind causes injury all the time. I remember one time I changed my mind and my spleen ruptured.

Dude, it wasn't like he had time to take notes. And perhaps the news reports (not blogs) were wrong, but he admits the ice contributed to his injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, changing one&#8217;s mind causes injury all the time. I remember one time I changed my mind and my spleen ruptured.</p>
<p>Dude, it wasn&#8217;t like he had time to take notes. And perhaps the news reports (not blogs) were wrong, but he admits the ice contributed to his injury.</p>
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		<title>By: bill ball</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P&#38;B-

Don't let this issue die. It's a wonder why someone like Comcast hasn't run this story.

I don't know if it's something political, something out of Ted's control or what the issue is exactly, but it's a real one.

It should be as important to fans as the Caps tightening their defense over the Summer months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P&amp;B-</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let this issue die. It&#8217;s a wonder why someone like Comcast hasn&#8217;t run this story.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s something political, something out of Ted&#8217;s control or what the issue is exactly, but it&#8217;s a real one.</p>
<p>It should be as important to fans as the Caps tightening their defense over the Summer months.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Park</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138124</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great observation, I knew something was wrong when great skaters like Ovie and Green were just falling over themselves throughout the home games in the 1st round. Mr. leonsis should get on top of it, he seems like a sharp guy, I hope he protects his 124mill investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great observation, I knew something was wrong when great skaters like Ovie and Green were just falling over themselves throughout the home games in the 1st round. Mr. leonsis should get on top of it, he seems like a sharp guy, I hope he protects his 124mill investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Heads Up Feds</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2008/04/24/an-unfathomable-scandal-sends-the-home-team-packing-for-the-summer/#comment-138051</link>
		<dc:creator>Heads Up Feds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone that is citing a blog about Knuble hitting a rut, please show me a quote from him saying that is what happened. All I found was this from one of the Philly papers: "I just saw the replay for the first time [yesterday], extremely ungraceful," Knuble said. "You go down to block a shot and change your mind and get caught up in the ice. It never happened to me before. It's one of those fluky things, but it's an awful time to have it happen."

The rut was him changing his mind, not in the ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone that is citing a blog about Knuble hitting a rut, please show me a quote from him saying that is what happened. All I found was this from one of the Philly papers: &#8220;I just saw the replay for the first time [yesterday], extremely ungraceful,&#8221; Knuble said. &#8220;You go down to block a shot and change your mind and get caught up in the ice. It never happened to me before. It&#8217;s one of those fluky things, but it&#8217;s an awful time to have it happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rut was him changing his mind, not in the ice.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***NastyEmu wrote:
I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. 

Hah. So now next year when the place is only 2/3rds full again, are you guys going to be saying itâ€™s because of the ice boycott? ***

I wish I could say my boycott would be noticed. I live too far away to attend but one game... A DECADE now. 

What I'm saying is that the NHL is such a clownishly run organization it doesn't surprise me that the ice is allowed to be so treacherous to the point of effecting game 7's AND players careers.  Notice the NFL and NCAA got rid of astroturf, why can't the NHL mandate a proper ice surface?

But, instead the NHL is too busy worrying about octopi in Detroit. Why do I even bother is beyond me. But each year, with the utmost excitement I'll spend two solid months watching the playoffs, even with teams like Calgary and Tampa playing.  I'm a true sucker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***NastyEmu wrote:<br />
I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. </p>
<p>Hah. So now next year when the place is only 2/3rds full again, are you guys going to be saying itâ€™s because of the ice boycott? ***</p>
<p>I wish I could say my boycott would be noticed. I live too far away to attend but one game&#8230; A DECADE now. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying is that the NHL is such a clownishly run organization it doesn&#8217;t surprise me that the ice is allowed to be so treacherous to the point of effecting game 7&#8217;s AND players careers.  Notice the NFL and NCAA got rid of astroturf, why can&#8217;t the NHL mandate a proper ice surface?</p>
<p>But, instead the NHL is too busy worrying about octopi in Detroit. Why do I even bother is beyond me. But each year, with the utmost excitement I&#8217;ll spend two solid months watching the playoffs, even with teams like Calgary and Tampa playing.  I&#8217;m a true sucker.</p>
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		<title>By: migz</title>
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		<dc:creator>migz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@on ice 

Well sir, that is a trick question, playing on a better sheet will result in less injuries, so no they won't get hurt :P

Seriously though, you could make that argument in any sport.  Would the Redskins execute a play differently on their practice field than at FedEx field?  

You will probably never be able to always execute a set play the way its designed every time due to a lot of other factors, such as ice conditions, the opponent, how they are playing defense, etc.  However, you can apply the same basic patterns, knowledge, and positioning on any field and use that to your advantage.  

The ice surface/condition would affect how well you could execute a play certainly, but that would be true for both teams, not just the Caps.  The only differences that I could see would be how the puck plays off the glass/boards.  There may be funny angles or different caroms the puck takes and you could use this to your own advantage in the VC as opposed to Kettler where they practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@on ice </p>
<p>Well sir, that is a trick question, playing on a better sheet will result in less injuries, so no they won&#8217;t get hurt <img src='http://www.onfrozenblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, you could make that argument in any sport.  Would the Redskins execute a play differently on their practice field than at FedEx field?  </p>
<p>You will probably never be able to always execute a set play the way its designed every time due to a lot of other factors, such as ice conditions, the opponent, how they are playing defense, etc.  However, you can apply the same basic patterns, knowledge, and positioning on any field and use that to your advantage.  </p>
<p>The ice surface/condition would affect how well you could execute a play certainly, but that would be true for both teams, not just the Caps.  The only differences that I could see would be how the puck plays off the glass/boards.  There may be funny angles or different caroms the puck takes and you could use this to your own advantage in the VC as opposed to Kettler where they practice.</p>
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		<title>By: MulletMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MulletMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said that Kettler was nice? I thought it was ok but still a little soft. During a game at Kettler, I watched the Goal Pegs (older medal pegs) sink over 1/2 inch into the ice. I didn't even realize it happened until we removed the nets for the resurfacing for next game. 
I don't know about you but that is pretty soft ice. Can't really speak about current conditions though, this incident happened a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said that Kettler was nice? I thought it was ok but still a little soft. During a game at Kettler, I watched the Goal Pegs (older medal pegs) sink over 1/2 inch into the ice. I didn&#8217;t even realize it happened until we removed the nets for the resurfacing for next game.<br />
I don&#8217;t know about you but that is pretty soft ice. Can&#8217;t really speak about current conditions though, this incident happened a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: pucksandbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>pucksandbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on ice: I have heard from some out at Kettler that that sheet ain't all that hot, either. That building, too, probably isn't as cool as it should be. Certainly it's not Piney Orchard chilly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on ice: I have heard from some out at Kettler that that sheet ain&#8217;t all that hot, either. That building, too, probably isn&#8217;t as cool as it should be. Certainly it&#8217;s not Piney Orchard chilly.</p>
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		<title>By: on ice</title>
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		<dc:creator>on ice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please, can anyone answer my question above?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please, can anyone answer my question above?</p>
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		<title>By: boom</title>
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		<dc:creator>boom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not an excuse, not conspiratorial, and probably unrelated, but through two and a half periods Tuesday night was as warm as I've ever been in that arena (Caps or Wiz). There was an odd point 10 minutes into the third when we felt some serious air-conditioning kick in for the first time all game.

I wonder how much worse this ice was from the 'decent' stuff of February and March. Its been the worst surface in the league all season. I saw the pools, and the frantic technicians, but we've seen that sort of thing all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not an excuse, not conspiratorial, and probably unrelated, but through two and a half periods Tuesday night was as warm as I&#8217;ve ever been in that arena (Caps or Wiz). There was an odd point 10 minutes into the third when we felt some serious air-conditioning kick in for the first time all game.</p>
<p>I wonder how much worse this ice was from the &#8216;decent&#8217; stuff of February and March. Its been the worst surface in the league all season. I saw the pools, and the frantic technicians, but we&#8217;ve seen that sort of thing all year.</p>
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		<title>By: dmg</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heads Up Feds:

http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/4876

"Knuble, who scored the winner in double overtime of Game 4, appeared to catch his skate in a rut while attempting to block a shot late in the second period. He had 29 goals and 26 assists during the regular season, and two goals and three assists against the Capitals."

It was also pretty clear on replays on the original broadcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heads Up Feds:</p>
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<p>&#8220;Knuble, who scored the winner in double overtime of Game 4, appeared to catch his skate in a rut while attempting to block a shot late in the second period. He had 29 goals and 26 assists during the regular season, and two goals and three assists against the Capitals.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was also pretty clear on replays on the original broadcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heads Up Feds:

1: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=234697&#38;lid=sublink02&#38;lpos=topRelated_main

3: That's true; however, if a member of the opposing team says a certain factor helped contribute to their win, that factor needs to be taken away from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Heads Up Feds:</p>
<p>1: <a href="http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=234697&amp;lid=sublink02&amp;lpos=topRelated_main" rel="nofollow">http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=234697&amp;lid=sublink02&amp;lpos=topRelated_main</a></p>
<p>3: That&#8217;s true; however, if a member of the opposing team says a certain factor helped contribute to their win, that factor needs to be taken away from them.</p>
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		<title>By: NastyEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>NastyEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. 

Hah.  So now next year when the place is only 2/3rds full again, are you guys going to be saying it's because of the ice boycott?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. </p>
<p>Hah.  So now next year when the place is only 2/3rds full again, are you guys going to be saying it&#8217;s because of the ice boycott?</p>
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		<title>By: vt caps fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>vt caps fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much of a travesty this is, and we know how Abe and his minions hate the caps; but doesn't Abe benefit by having a lot of games in the VC because he still keeps the majority of the concessions? So it benefits his bottom line. (I can't remember the lease agreement Uncle Ted has with Abe with regards to the caps playing there, but I do know he's getting shafted)

Blame Abe for allowing the Circus to come to town during the final weeks of the season.

Blaming Abe for trying to ruin the Caps is a bit of a stretch. 

Blaming Abe for not holding up his end of the deal in providing a TOP NOTCH STATE OF THE ART  MULTI-USE VENUE IS VALID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much of a travesty this is, and we know how Abe and his minions hate the caps; but doesn&#8217;t Abe benefit by having a lot of games in the VC because he still keeps the majority of the concessions? So it benefits his bottom line. (I can&#8217;t remember the lease agreement Uncle Ted has with Abe with regards to the caps playing there, but I do know he&#8217;s getting shafted)</p>
<p>Blame Abe for allowing the Circus to come to town during the final weeks of the season.</p>
<p>Blaming Abe for trying to ruin the Caps is a bit of a stretch. </p>
<p>Blaming Abe for not holding up his end of the deal in providing a TOP NOTCH STATE OF THE ART  MULTI-USE VENUE IS VALID.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can be done?  Can we hire away the ice guys in Edmonton, even on a consulting basis?  
Should there not be a pretty simple answer?
My concern -- aside from that already expressed -- is that the ice here makes it tougher to retain our own free agents and sign new ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can be done?  Can we hire away the ice guys in Edmonton, even on a consulting basis?<br />
Should there not be a pretty simple answer?<br />
My concern &#8212; aside from that already expressed &#8212; is that the ice here makes it tougher to retain our own free agents and sign new ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott in Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott in Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to mention, apropos of your earlier post, that not only do I come here because of the access you provide for the regular fans, but also for the outstanding comments of well-informed readers.  Where else do you get an ice technician weighing in on a potential ice scandal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to mention, apropos of your earlier post, that not only do I come here because of the access you provide for the regular fans, but also for the outstanding comments of well-informed readers.  Where else do you get an ice technician weighing in on a potential ice scandal?</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 what you write is completely irrelevant. If the ice is as bad as what is being said here, it doesn't matter what happens in Philly, Calgary or Boston.  The only thing that matters is for a professional league to put out a professional playing surface where the teams can compete evenly. 

Why would Chris Clark, Briere, and Semin ALL say the stuff about the ice if the ice had no effect on the game, and not just game 7 either, but all Caps games? This is insane. 
I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. How many Caps fans knew they were shelling out good money to see a professionals play on a high school rink?

OFB, please keep the pressure on. This IS a travesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 what you write is completely irrelevant. If the ice is as bad as what is being said here, it doesn&#8217;t matter what happens in Philly, Calgary or Boston.  The only thing that matters is for a professional league to put out a professional playing surface where the teams can compete evenly. </p>
<p>Why would Chris Clark, Briere, and Semin ALL say the stuff about the ice if the ice had no effect on the game, and not just game 7 either, but all Caps games? This is insane.<br />
I feel like boycotting until this gets fixed. How many Caps fans knew they were shelling out good money to see a professionals play on a high school rink?</p>
<p>OFB, please keep the pressure on. This IS a travesty.</p>
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		<title>By: zelda</title>
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		<dc:creator>zelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've noticed this problem at most of the Caps games I've gone to this year - admittedly, it might be harder to maintain the ice on hot days, but back in January there seemed to be a lot of breaks to clean up around the goals. I hauled a jacket to the last 2 home games expecting to need it -- I didn't -- I was comfortable in a t-shirt.  You just saw how many guys were skidding out in game 7 to know that ice conditions stunk.  Think it's time to have a hard-nosed talk with the landlord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed this problem at most of the Caps games I&#8217;ve gone to this year - admittedly, it might be harder to maintain the ice on hot days, but back in January there seemed to be a lot of breaks to clean up around the goals. I hauled a jacket to the last 2 home games expecting to need it &#8212; I didn&#8217;t &#8212; I was comfortable in a t-shirt.  You just saw how many guys were skidding out in game 7 to know that ice conditions stunk.  Think it&#8217;s time to have a hard-nosed talk with the landlord.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill-DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill-DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where have you gone John Millsback, the former ice man/zamboni driver for the Caps at the Cap Centre</description>
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		<title>By: migz</title>
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		<dc:creator>migz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too noticed some of the staff doing some repairs during game 7.  But what I noticed more was during the breaks when the crew shovels off the snow/ice shavings that have built up during play. They were scooping up excessively large snow piles, which indicates soft ice.  

I used to be an 'ice technician' and drove an Olympia previously at a rink.  IMO the ice staff here in DC is dumping too much water during the resurfacing.  I have noticed this problem not just during the playoffs, but all year long.  The staff is squeegeeing excess water waaay too much as was pointed out.

Ideally during games, you want to do more of a cold cut with more cold water than warm at half to quarter open and drop the blade a notch lower to cut more ice off.  This achieves two goals, first it eliminates the depth of the ruts and secondly it doesn't heat up the surface of the ice too much during game time.  After the game is over, then you lay down a lot of hot water to fill in all the ruts and build up the height of the surface to allow for what you scraped off during game time.

I'm not sure what the problem is or where to start, but these are my ideas.  It could be due to the equipment, or it could be due to how the staff has decided to care for the ice sheet. If it's the equipment &#38; ice refrigerant system the coils under the ice may not be doing their job very well, or the ambient air temp of the building way too warm. If it's the staff they may want to reconsider different ways to resurface the ice before next season, with different Olympia settings such as blade height, cold/hot water mix, and how far open/closed each is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too noticed some of the staff doing some repairs during game 7.  But what I noticed more was during the breaks when the crew shovels off the snow/ice shavings that have built up during play. They were scooping up excessively large snow piles, which indicates soft ice.  </p>
<p>I used to be an &#8216;ice technician&#8217; and drove an Olympia previously at a rink.  IMO the ice staff here in DC is dumping too much water during the resurfacing.  I have noticed this problem not just during the playoffs, but all year long.  The staff is squeegeeing excess water waaay too much as was pointed out.</p>
<p>Ideally during games, you want to do more of a cold cut with more cold water than warm at half to quarter open and drop the blade a notch lower to cut more ice off.  This achieves two goals, first it eliminates the depth of the ruts and secondly it doesn&#8217;t heat up the surface of the ice too much during game time.  After the game is over, then you lay down a lot of hot water to fill in all the ruts and build up the height of the surface to allow for what you scraped off during game time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the problem is or where to start, but these are my ideas.  It could be due to the equipment, or it could be due to how the staff has decided to care for the ice sheet. If it&#8217;s the equipment &amp; ice refrigerant system the coils under the ice may not be doing their job very well, or the ambient air temp of the building way too warm. If it&#8217;s the staff they may want to reconsider different ways to resurface the ice before next season, with different Olympia settings such as blade height, cold/hot water mix, and how far open/closed each is.</p>
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		<title>By: Heads Up Feds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heads Up Feds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few things here:

1. Show me any media report that says Knuble hit a rut. I did not see this and it is wrong for you you to speculate. He said he was trying to pull up from a slide and things went wrong. Was Gordon injury ice related? Who knows. 

2. Philly has the Spectrum, which hosted the circus last week, so Wachovia does host less events. Just saying. 

3. You don't know if the Caps would have won on good ice. The ice could have been Calgary-caliber and they still could have lost. 

4. The Boston analogy, albeit understood, is a poor one. It it not comparable, which has already been pointed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few things here:</p>
<p>1. Show me any media report that says Knuble hit a rut. I did not see this and it is wrong for you you to speculate. He said he was trying to pull up from a slide and things went wrong. Was Gordon injury ice related? Who knows. </p>
<p>2. Philly has the Spectrum, which hosted the circus last week, so Wachovia does host less events. Just saying. </p>
<p>3. You don&#8217;t know if the Caps would have won on good ice. The ice could have been Calgary-caliber and they still could have lost. </p>
<p>4. The Boston analogy, albeit understood, is a poor one. It it not comparable, which has already been pointed out.</p>
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		<title>By: b.orr4</title>
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		<dc:creator>b.orr4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of Olie, maybe we can get Abe to take his nameplate and go home. How Ted restrains himself from leaping across the conference table and strangling Pollin (aka Mr. Burns)is a mystery to me. Inner city tenants get better treatment from slumlords than Ted gets from WS&#38;E.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of Olie, maybe we can get Abe to take his nameplate and go home. How Ted restrains himself from leaping across the conference table and strangling Pollin (aka Mr. Burns)is a mystery to me. Inner city tenants get better treatment from slumlords than Ted gets from WS&amp;E.</p>
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		<title>By: pucksandbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>pucksandbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, when I'd visit Piney Orchard for the team's July development camps back in the day, you know what I'd take with me? A sweatshirt. And a jacket. The best part of July in D.C. was being inside Piney Orchard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, when I&#8217;d visit Piney Orchard for the team&#8217;s July development camps back in the day, you know what I&#8217;d take with me? A sweatshirt. And a jacket. The best part of July in D.C. was being inside Piney Orchard.</p>
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