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Sleepy Time in Montreal


You knew this reaction was coming:

Alex Ovechkin- photo courtesy of TSN/The Canadian Press

Let us dream a little. And if the Canadiens subjected an offer to Alexander Ovechkin next summer?

Four times in the course of his post-game press conference yesterday afternoon, the Russian magician repeated to what extent he likes to play in Montreal. "It is my favourite place."


The article, written in French but understandable thanks to a translation engine, provided some insight into the minds of the Montreal faithful.
"Ice hockey is so big in Montreal," [said Ovechkin].

"They would say that you would like this, to play here every day," said an associate.

Ovechkin needed some seconds of cogitation before finding a respectful enough and diplomatically correct answer for Ted Leonsis, who signs his checks of pay.

"No," he answered in a tone which wanted to say: "I have no choice [but] to say this."


Certainly Montreal fans would choose to read whatever they wanted into Ovechkin's tone. And perhaps he has considered the possibilities of playing in a hockey-centric city; any player in a city where hockey is a distant fourth or fifth priority has considered it. But then reality sets in.

Look at cities like Ottawa and Toronto, where hockey is king. Goalies Ray Emery and Andrew Raycroft used to be the heroes; seemingly overnight, after a few losses, they became goats. Now both cities are complaining bitterly about these goalies, thanks to the strident voice of the Canadian media. Toronto fans are even insisting that Raycroft be sent down to the ECHL in order to get him out of the city, since the Marlies are too close. Obviously, this is ridiculous, but it's a typical sentiment in sport-crazed cities. (For a local reference point, look at the never-ending controversy about Joe Gibbs vs. retirement.)

Would Ovechkin, who can usually walk peacefully down the street in Redskins Land in relative anonymity, really want to subject himself to the scrutiny of a demanding public? Perhaps he would, but he's certainly aware of the pros and cons of such an action. He also knows that he's changing the face of hockey in D.C., and can have a real impact here. Cities like Montreal, Toronto, or even New York don't need Ovechkin the way that Washington does. And every goal he scores, every celebratory outburst he makes, every Segway ride he takes brings a much-needed focus on the team that wouldn't necessarily be there otherwise. Still, no one but Ovechkin knows what's going on in his mind right now, and Washington fans pray that he'll want to stay.

Caps fans are anxiously hoping for the news that Ovechkin signs a new contract with the team. May that day arrive soon, so that Bruce Garrioch and Larry Brooks can find something else to focus their energies on.

BallHype: hype it up!


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22 Comments on "Sleepy Time in Montreal"

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Posted by Donald, January 6, 2008 4:46 PM

I love it when other "big time hockey cities" are envious of us.

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Posted by Carol, January 6, 2008 6:59 PM

Nice job on this article; well balanced and not written with the circumspect "The sky is falling, Ovechkin hates us and won't stay in DC". There is always something to be said for anonymity where you live and work. Ovechkin can probably find peace in a public place around the DC metro area; he would be mobbed at every turn in Montreal or Toronto. Honestly, in the long run, I think where Ovechkin stays is more about opportunity to win and reach the playoffs on a consistent basis. At this point in time, why can't we all believe Ovechkin's best chance for continued success is right here in good old Washington!! You don't have to dream that much -- the young talent is right here, right now, with more on the way.

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Posted by Chris Green, January 6, 2008 8:36 PM

Ovie is Russian right? The last time I checked their only other national past time besides hockey is drinking vodka... and watching hockey...

Pressure is something he is used too, and I don't think he has any illusions of failure in his game....

Ted needs to start offering chartered bus service from philly, Pitts, NJ/NYC, Charlotte, and anyone elso who will fill our seats so we can afford to keep this guy in town....

Sounds crazy? Until we fill up VC with Caps fans... where's the dough gonna come from? Ted was generous with the Jagr debacle (I personally would have bought the best 'D' men with the $$$), but he was the 'Man' for taking the risk...

We shouldn't be asking him to mortgage the Caps future alone.... Yes, and I bought season tickets...

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Posted by Capsaholic, January 6, 2008 9:53 PM

“No,� he answered in a tone which wanted to say: “I have no choice [but] to say this.�

That's some tone. I bet only that reporter and dogs could hear that tone.
LMAO!

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Posted by dmg, January 7, 2008 12:15 AM

Maybe the dough could come from some of the 1 billion dollars in net worth Leonsis has? Or his ownership in the Wizards, Mystics and Ticketmaster?

I agree that in the long run he's going to want the Caps to be able to operate in the black and be competitive on the ice, but he's smart enough to know that he's got to keep Ovechkin here if that's going to happen.

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Posted by Doc Nagel, January 7, 2008 1:42 AM

I've felt bad for Caps fans, and the players for that matter, since watching them on the DC cable "superstation" back in the 80s when I lived in Greensboro, NC. I've never been able to understand why hockey hasn't caught on there. When the Caps had their first taste of success in the 80s, they played an exciting, tough, fun brand of hockey, but to empty seats. I have a feeling history will repeat itself and Ovechkin will find greener pastures.

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Posted by Chris Green, January 7, 2008 2:59 AM

Doc Says:
"I’ve never been able to understand why hockey hasn’t caught on there."

I grew up watching the Richmond Robins, turned Rifles turned Wild Cats.. turned gone to the ECHL, UHL.. The reason IMHO that the AHL franchises folded in Richmond was poltical... when Henry Marsh was elected Mayor, both the Virginia Squires, who had among their players a one Julius Erving & the Robins told the City of Richmond, we're under stress and could use some reduced rent to stay here... Non coming, the Squires folded and Dr J went to NJ Nets, and the AHL (and how much is one of those franchises worth today) finally folded...

My point is southerners like Hockey because of its fast, hard hitting (literally) style of play... If that were not the case why do we see the Hurricanes, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Nashville, etc have successful franchises?

That said, Abe Pollin has done wonders for Downtown DC... but even today, I tell people I am going to the game, and they say, "How say is it"... (this from a current 50 year old female Richmond fan). My reaction, totally safe... but that is why she hasn't gone to VC.

I think the main problem the Caps have is getting kids to the game.... You get those kids in there, and they Love it! When I was a kid the first 1000 thru the door got a hockey stick, or puck night (little bit of a liability issue), or a horn, etc...

We would play hockey in the upper concourse with balled up paper cups, (oh, there's a Robin's game on?)... We were acting out our own Robins stars up there, checking, shooting, scoring, or the brave one who volunteered for goalie!

Like little league ball you never forget it...

Many kids can not afford to go to the games, but once they get that taste they will watch it on TV, until they get to another game.... That is why it is so IMPORTANT, that our 'Capitals Voice'... Talks about the Caps... The Caps... our players even when they screw up....

The Kids know the difference.... and the kids want to go to the games... I live 120 miles from VC, but I have 11 weekend games, and I donated the balance of the tickets to the MVK program.. It costs me $28 a game, and I couldn't have a better donation to the kids or for my tax return....

They are the present and future of the Caps.... Bank on it!

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Posted by Victor, January 7, 2008 1:39 PM

Should we get a pool going on when Chris Green will construct a sentence that misuses neither an ellipses nor single quotes, nor a capital letter, nor a comma?

If so, I'm taking 2016.

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Posted by hockeygrl76, January 7, 2008 1:41 PM

Chris has a point. I have never met so many people afraid to take the metro or go downtown. It's crazy. I have a single seat so I go to the games myself and take the metro to every one of them. I feel perfectly safe doing so but when I tell people what I do they about have a fit about it. I just don't think the suburbanites out here have any idea what their missing by being afraid to go downtown. DC has a wealth of culture, sports and activities to offer and I rarely met people who take advantage of it. Pretty sad...

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Posted by Thunderweenie, January 7, 2008 2:42 PM

Good article, DCSC. You really nailed it with respect to Canadian cities and our voracious media. We really do live in hockey “fish-bowls� up here, though sometimes players who skate off to more southerly climes say that they miss that. Gary Roberts and Martin Brodeur are two who come to mind.

But the dark side of Canada’s hockey madness is that we really do eat our own alive around here. Ask Andrew Raycroft (your comments on him are bang-on). Ask Saku Koivu, or any other player who has been caught up in the never-ending language war that is life in Montreal. (I disagree on Ray Emery, though—I think his temper tantrums and other conduct issues would earn him enemies no matter where he played. But that’s a debate for another day.)

So Ovechkin would indeed be a media megastar in Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, or Edmonton the way he just isn’t in Washington and probably will never be. But he would never be able to go for a quiet beer at his local bar, or go to the grocery store in peace, or do any of those other things that average Joes and Joannes like us take for granted. More to the point, his first slump playing in a Canadian city would be a VERY unpleasant experience.

Can he deal with that pressure? Probably. But could he avoid it? No way.

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Posted by DC Sports Chick, January 7, 2008 2:49 PM

Thanks, Thunderweenie. As much as he'd love the attention, I think Ovechkin actually likes being able to do things like going to Wizards games and canoodling with his girlfriend without being bothered. Plus, he's well aware when he does occasionally hit a slump, and doesn't need or desire the constant reminders that the Canadian media would provide.

Still, a lot of guys like the hockey-centric environment. I remember when Ken Klee first left here and went to Toronto; he made some comments about how different it was (because of the constant hockey focus) and how much he liked that. Not sure how he felt about it when he left Toronto, though :-)

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Posted by Thunderweenie, January 7, 2008 2:55 PM

Even better: ask Bryan McCabe how he felt about about the Toronto media (and, it must be said, Toronto fans themselves) after he scored an own-goal earlier this year. Yah, he was a popular guy when that happened.

He probably thought: "Damn it, why did I sign in this city for five years? I could have played in, say, Phoenix, where you could play naked and no one would notice. But nooooo...."

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Posted by Chris Green, January 7, 2008 4:22 PM

victor says:
Victor wrote:

"Should we get a pool going on when Chris Green will construct a sentence that misuses neither an ellipses nor single quotes, nor a capital letter, nor a comma?

If so, I’m taking 2016."

You know when you are winning the argument when the only rebuttal to your points.... is an attack on the grammar of your posts.... (i.e. that Chris Green is so uneducated, and unwashed....)

Why don't you try tearing down my argument? That is if you have something in your bag of tricks beyond snide remarks?

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Posted by CaptainFANatic, January 7, 2008 11:05 PM

To say Hockey is Big in Toronto is an understatement!! Toronto fans known as be-leafers have waited 40 years for a return of the Stanly Cup parade...and the longer the wait the bigger the buildup, remember the Sox's, red or black they sure waited a long time. Visit www.captainfanatic.com, and read the comic book on line, "You better be-leaf it", to get the picture of whats it all!!

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Posted by Don, January 7, 2008 11:49 PM

Chris your wrong about Tampa Bay and The Canes they cant fill the seats and Tampa will be moving soon ...Nashville lost millions and was sold and might still move ... Hockey in the south does not work .

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Posted by Chris Green, January 8, 2008 2:05 AM

Dallas, Nashville, Phoenix, but look at Pittsburg, and Buffalo almost folded, sometimes its management, marketing, a lot of factors... but I wasn't born north of the Mason Dixon, and I Love hockey...

I'd like to know CaptanFANatic's opinion if BenaDict-nati could survive 5 games in Toronto calling like he does here....

People seem to be side stepping my arguments....

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Posted by Whiter Mage, January 8, 2008 10:15 AM

Chris, I think Benanati is fine, and you're overreacting. The point of having a good two man team is balance, and while I agree that Benanati doesn't always appear to be on our side, he's a Caps fan at heart, but tries to be neutral to keep his job prospects for things like Pac-10 games open, rather than appearing like some crazy homer like Craig Laughlin (Who I love).
When I met Joe B. he seemed really into the Caps, and asked me what I thought of the new unis, going so far to say "I wasn't sure how they'd look seeing them on a hanger, but seeing the full ensemble they look great." going so far as to say something to the effect of how he couldn't wait to see the Caps do well in the new unis.
I'd guess he just seems to sit on the other side of the fence a little to cover for Craig Laughlin. Besides, in DC, you know as well as I do that for every two caps fans there's at LEAST one fan of all of the other teams combined, and they tune in. It represents the city better. Enjoy calling people names.

Your other point, I wasn't born north of the Mason-Dixon line either (I think? Germany doesn't have one) but it's not that hard to type in English with decent grammar.

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Posted by Victor, January 8, 2008 1:33 PM

Chris, an argument should be clean, clear, and concise. Put in a bunch of extra stuff (such as ellipses, scare quotes, and unneeded parenthesis) and it is difficult and painful to read, and any argument you make gets lost in the crap.

It's obvious you're a Caps fan; that's good, we need more. But are you a hockey fan? Watch this SH goal by Torrey Mitchell and say, with a straight face, it's not a "thing of beauty" or "simply fantastic." I am, of course, interested in what others think of it, also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q44RRllsCg

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Posted by Thunderweenie, January 8, 2008 6:52 PM

CaptainFanatic, your misguided enthusiasm for the Leafs is duly noted by all present. :-)

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Posted by Chris Green, January 9, 2008 6:39 AM

Victor:
When we need to beat Montreal and the score is 1-1, and the Habs score again; it was not dazzling to see Green get beat, nor was it a 'thing of beauty'...

We went down 2-1, and 'your boy' was throwing it in my face. Now, why do you not like seeing the VC full of Pens, Flyers, etc. fans.... because they cheer wildly when their teams score? In our faces, on our home ice!

My home ice when I am not at the game is my living room, and he has no business acting like a 16 year old at a Beastie Boys concert fawning over a goal made by the other team.

I have news for you. I care far less for his career than I do about the Capitals winning games. You wonder if I am a hockey fan, I wonder if you are a Capitals fan!

Hockey isn't a freaking figure skating contest, and goals and wins aren't scored on a 1 to 10 basis, by some french judge on the sidelines.... (Read here benanati)

I tell you what's crap. The fact you don't want to go toe to toe on the merits of the points presented. Finding your self disarmed, you try to change the subject onto grammar, syntax, spelling, use of parenthesis, or what ever else....

except the freaking subject. Get back to me when you can see out from behind your pom poms for benanati....

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Posted by Victor, January 9, 2008 10:48 AM

While my first comment (obviously a joke) was snarky, my second was an attempt to answer your question and engage you in discussion. It's clear you have grasp of neither common courtesy nor of the English language (both in writing and in comprehension). If you wish to engage in debate, engage away. If you wish to present your own bizarre and uncomprehensible views, then please allow me to suggest you start your own hockey blog.

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Posted by Chris Green, January 10, 2008 3:15 AM

No, I am sorry Victor, I have been blogging actively for over 2 years, your comment #8 had two purposes.

The first was to belittle me, the second was to try an isolate me as a 'outsider', some one who doesn't 'belong'.

As for your contention that my comments are uncomprehensible, why is it I have engaged with other commenters, and they don't seem to have comprehension problems with my english skills...

and finally, you have the nerve to challenge me to a debate, when your only response to any of my previous comments was is an insult? Now you invite me to go start my own hockey blog?

Pray Tell Sir... is this your blog? I have perused the latest posts and you do not seem to be the author....

Why not ask the actual blog owners/authors for an open thread just for the two us... one on one, I'll be your huckleberry.... Tell me if you got the guts to drop the gloves, so you can school me, real good....

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