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	<title>Comments on: Steve Czaban Steps in It</title>
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	<description>A Haven for the Hockey Malnourished</description>
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		<title>By: Gustafsson</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-66615</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustafsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't it interesting how people who defend he position that hockey doesn't matter are reading &lt;strong&gt;AND COMMENTING&lt;/strong&gt; on hockey blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it interesting how people who defend he position that hockey doesn&#8217;t matter are reading <strong>AND COMMENTING</strong> on hockey blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only hockey purists would whine about this.  He is right, you are wrong--10 Stanley Cups and still no one would care in this town.  I grew up in Wisconsin where we actually play hockey and it's just never going to resonate the way some of the other sports do--especially in a city with the demographics of DC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only hockey purists would whine about this.  He is right, you are wrong&#8211;10 Stanley Cups and still no one would care in this town.  I grew up in Wisconsin where we actually play hockey and it&#8217;s just never going to resonate the way some of the other sports do&#8211;especially in a city with the demographics of DC!</p>
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		<title>By: Gustafsson</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-35644</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustafsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't remember the airwaves burning in '97-'98.  Maybe in the last round, but certainly not before.</description>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-35643</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If sports radio talked about soccer, I would change the station.

What you guys seem to be missing about all the other towns that are considered great sports town, they all have a foundation of winning. Simply put Washington isn't a great sports town because its teams have never laid the foundation to gather fans. Why would a radio station willingly talk about the Caps when theyre 30 points out of first place, and no one wants to hear about them? You give them a first place or even just a competitive team and I garauntee they will give the Caps time. Look at how much time they have given the wizards when they are in season because they have won.
The other cities where you say they all get equal coverage, thats only because each of their teams has done something at some point to develop a fanbase where the stations have incentive to cover that team. Look at Boston, every team has won at some time or another that has given them a reason to want to hear about their teams, the same with New York and Chicago. In DC the Wiz hadn't been good since the early 70's, the Caps have ~never~ been good, and the Nationals are a recent occurance.

Bottom line, if Mr. Leonsis wants coverage field a better team. Don't blame the media that no one is interested in hearing about the Caps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If sports radio talked about soccer, I would change the station.</p>
<p>What you guys seem to be missing about all the other towns that are considered great sports town, they all have a foundation of winning. Simply put Washington isn&#8217;t a great sports town because its teams have never laid the foundation to gather fans. Why would a radio station willingly talk about the Caps when theyre 30 points out of first place, and no one wants to hear about them? You give them a first place or even just a competitive team and I garauntee they will give the Caps time. Look at how much time they have given the wizards when they are in season because they have won.<br />
The other cities where you say they all get equal coverage, thats only because each of their teams has done something at some point to develop a fanbase where the stations have incentive to cover that team. Look at Boston, every team has won at some time or another that has given them a reason to want to hear about their teams, the same with New York and Chicago. In DC the Wiz hadn&#8217;t been good since the early 70&#8217;s, the Caps have ~never~ been good, and the Nationals are a recent occurance.</p>
<p>Bottom line, if Mr. Leonsis wants coverage field a better team. Don&#8217;t blame the media that no one is interested in hearing about the Caps.</p>
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		<title>By: On Frozen Blog &#124; New Radio Deal</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Frozen Blog &#124; New Radio Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Don&#8217;t expect any tears to be shed from the so called Sports Reporters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Don&#8217;t expect any tears to be shed from the so called Sports Reporters. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: THNScott</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-34405</link>
		<dc:creator>THNScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is, the Redskins coverage usually sucks, too.</description>
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		<title>By: Grooven</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-34122</link>
		<dc:creator>Grooven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't listen to sports radio around here.  Mostly because I don't live and die by one sport, nor do I care about the tabloid highlights of sports on the radio.
I might not even listen to a weekly talkshow about the Capitals only because the call-in folk would bring up the same points and lament the same things over and over (which is what happens).

Here's what would get me to listen to a local sports show.  A knowledgeable crew talking about a variety of sports -- Scott Linn for hockey comes to mind. I remember him as very insightful and I always found a new appreciation for something or someone.  Introduce me to a new one.  Let me learn something about nuance or strategy or some rule or player I may not know. Expose me to something unfamiliar. (Bocchi?) Make it a sports show.  Not a football show, or a baseball show. There are enough sport-specific ones.

I don't even have to like all of everything covered.  But it's like pop radio.  Mix up the songs so it's not the same 23 that make up your predictable playlist. Give me something worthwhile and diverse, I'll tune in.

Pro local teams and/or sports and/or reasons it would be nice to hear worthwhile discussion and debate about (start of a list):

Washington Capitals -- hockey (Ovechkin, Kolzig and a whole lot of other players across the league I don't need to elaborate upon here. Debate on rules changes pros and cons -- aside from the shootout.  Agree or not with it, I'm tired of that being the only thing people discuss.)

DC United -- soccer (Will Moreno get the goals record?  Beckham, like him or not, is news, but not all the news.)

Washington Freedom -- soccer (yes they still play.  Is the women's league going to make a return? Even -- how's the team faring?)

Washington Redskins -- football (pre-season injuries, roster paring, Gibbs return to glory?)

Washington Wizards -- basketball (fun to hear sometimes even though I don't care for basketball much.  some of the personalities are great to hear about.)

Washington Mystics -- basketball (see above. Barely missed the playoffs.  Why?  What could be done different?  Off-season improvements?)

Washington Nationals -- baseball (Worst team ever??? They've proved just about every sports reporter and prognosticator wrong this season.)

Washington Glory -- softball  (that's right -- there's a pro softball team here. They play in a league with opponents like Jennie Finch of Olympics fame. A couple Olympians on the local squad, first place in the league regular season {championship series upcoming}, pitcher of the year, player of the year, probably rookie of the year, 5 all-stars and maybe coach of the year) -- and I didn't even know anything about fast-pitch softball before this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t listen to sports radio around here.  Mostly because I don&#8217;t live and die by one sport, nor do I care about the tabloid highlights of sports on the radio.<br />
I might not even listen to a weekly talkshow about the Capitals only because the call-in folk would bring up the same points and lament the same things over and over (which is what happens).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what would get me to listen to a local sports show.  A knowledgeable crew talking about a variety of sports &#8212; Scott Linn for hockey comes to mind. I remember him as very insightful and I always found a new appreciation for something or someone.  Introduce me to a new one.  Let me learn something about nuance or strategy or some rule or player I may not know. Expose me to something unfamiliar. (Bocchi?) Make it a sports show.  Not a football show, or a baseball show. There are enough sport-specific ones.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even have to like all of everything covered.  But it&#8217;s like pop radio.  Mix up the songs so it&#8217;s not the same 23 that make up your predictable playlist. Give me something worthwhile and diverse, I&#8217;ll tune in.</p>
<p>Pro local teams and/or sports and/or reasons it would be nice to hear worthwhile discussion and debate about (start of a list):</p>
<p>Washington Capitals &#8212; hockey (Ovechkin, Kolzig and a whole lot of other players across the league I don&#8217;t need to elaborate upon here. Debate on rules changes pros and cons &#8212; aside from the shootout.  Agree or not with it, I&#8217;m tired of that being the only thing people discuss.)</p>
<p>DC United &#8212; soccer (Will Moreno get the goals record?  Beckham, like him or not, is news, but not all the news.)</p>
<p>Washington Freedom &#8212; soccer (yes they still play.  Is the women&#8217;s league going to make a return? Even &#8212; how&#8217;s the team faring?)</p>
<p>Washington Redskins &#8212; football (pre-season injuries, roster paring, Gibbs return to glory?)</p>
<p>Washington Wizards &#8212; basketball (fun to hear sometimes even though I don&#8217;t care for basketball much.  some of the personalities are great to hear about.)</p>
<p>Washington Mystics &#8212; basketball (see above. Barely missed the playoffs.  Why?  What could be done different?  Off-season improvements?)</p>
<p>Washington Nationals &#8212; baseball (Worst team ever??? They&#8217;ve proved just about every sports reporter and prognosticator wrong this season.)</p>
<p>Washington Glory &#8212; softball  (that&#8217;s right &#8212; there&#8217;s a pro softball team here. They play in a league with opponents like Jennie Finch of Olympics fame. A couple Olympians on the local squad, first place in the league regular season {championship series upcoming}, pitcher of the year, player of the year, probably rookie of the year, 5 all-stars and maybe coach of the year) &#8212; and I didn&#8217;t even know anything about fast-pitch softball before this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Muddapucker</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-34114</link>
		<dc:creator>Muddapucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to much energy being spent on Czaban.  The guy is a ratings whore.  Who cares what he says?  

My advice to Ted...  Keep doing what your doing.  I guarantee sports talk radio will be talking about the Caps soon... they will be the talk of the town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to much energy being spent on Czaban.  The guy is a ratings whore.  Who cares what he says?  </p>
<p>My advice to Ted&#8230;  Keep doing what your doing.  I guarantee sports talk radio will be talking about the Caps soon&#8230; they will be the talk of the town.</p>
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		<title>By: SovSport</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33959</link>
		<dc:creator>SovSport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes him a sports clown and not a sports reporter. Maybe they should rename their program to Sports Circus for the braindead? That would fit your description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes him a sports clown and not a sports reporter. Maybe they should rename their program to Sports Circus for the braindead? That would fit your description.</p>
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		<title>By: Quarter</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33954</link>
		<dc:creator>Quarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be quite a bit of confusion with the purpose of Czaban and his ilk.  Czab is the 'Deal or No Deal' of sports radio, and it seems that Caps fans think they should be getting 'Jeopardy'.  They call themselves the Sports Reporters, but they are actually the Sports Entertainers.  They are nothing more than the sports equivalent to morning DJs.  Their schtick is using the news of the day to generate a reaction to keep you listening, not to educate you.  They get more reaction by belittling hockey and soccer fans than in discussing hockey or soccer, so that's what they do.  Even in football and golf, sports that Czab certainly knows, many of his comments are not 'thoughtful sports opinion', they quasi-inflammatory criticisms designed to generate discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be quite a bit of confusion with the purpose of Czaban and his ilk.  Czab is the &#8216;Deal or No Deal&#8217; of sports radio, and it seems that Caps fans think they should be getting &#8216;Jeopardy&#8217;.  They call themselves the Sports Reporters, but they are actually the Sports Entertainers.  They are nothing more than the sports equivalent to morning DJs.  Their schtick is using the news of the day to generate a reaction to keep you listening, not to educate you.  They get more reaction by belittling hockey and soccer fans than in discussing hockey or soccer, so that&#8217;s what they do.  Even in football and golf, sports that Czab certainly knows, many of his comments are not &#8216;thoughtful sports opinion&#8217;, they quasi-inflammatory criticisms designed to generate discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely, Czaban is correct. This is not philadelphia, detroit, new york, boston, or montreal. In those cities hockey is beloved as much as their other major sports teams. In DC it is not. In DC folks do not care about the Caps (unfortunately). I wish Czaban and 980 talked more Caps,but understand why they do not. Say what you may, but Czaban is great at what he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely, Czaban is correct. This is not philadelphia, detroit, new york, boston, or montreal. In those cities hockey is beloved as much as their other major sports teams. In DC it is not. In DC folks do not care about the Caps (unfortunately). I wish Czaban and 980 talked more Caps,but understand why they do not. Say what you may, but Czaban is great at what he does.</p>
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		<title>By: usiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>usiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one is arguing what sports are the most popular in the area and that will naturally dictate radio air time....  

But the mocking of hockey in general always puzzles me.  That is what always gets me.  I don't think WTEM bashed the Capitals team specifically other than some normal/expected jokes as a bad season ran down that happens to even the major sports in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is arguing what sports are the most popular in the area and that will naturally dictate radio air time&#8230;.  </p>
<p>But the mocking of hockey in general always puzzles me.  That is what always gets me.  I don&#8217;t think WTEM bashed the Capitals team specifically other than some normal/expected jokes as a bad season ran down that happens to even the major sports in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackaces</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33909</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha Detroit. You know what the nicest suburb of Detroit is? Chicago!

Wasn't there a time back in the 1980's when the Wings couldn't even sell out The Joe, in part because their teams were so bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Detroit. You know what the nicest suburb of Detroit is? Chicago!</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a time back in the 1980&#8217;s when the Wings couldn&#8217;t even sell out The Joe, in part because their teams were so bad?</p>
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		<title>By: GoBucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoBucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not in the area but I am glad people are all fighting this crap.

The Cap blogosphere, Vogs, the podcasts make it easy to be a fan 500 miles away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in the area but I am glad people are all fighting this crap.</p>
<p>The Cap blogosphere, Vogs, the podcasts make it easy to be a fan 500 miles away.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Detroit. (Detroit???)"

Yeah. Detroit. Detroit is a great sports town.

Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Detroit. (Detroit???)&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. Detroit. Detroit is a great sports town.</p>
<p>Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackaces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, guys. Czaban did a fantastic job of basically destroying his own point. He goes on and on about how DC isn't a sports town, but maybe that's partly do in part to stations such as WTEM which cover little other than the Skins. 

One of the reasons why I think WTEM is foolish is that not only do they fail to adequately cover/respect sports such as hockey and soccer, they also give paltry coverage to the Nats. The struggles of hockey and soccer are well documented, but these guys are so brainwashed by football that they don't even pay attention to the city's MLB team.

Baseball is one of the top 3 sports in the country, and those clowns won't even cover that. They'd rather spend hours and hours talking about Redskin passing drills at March mini-camp than actually talk about something interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, guys. Czaban did a fantastic job of basically destroying his own point. He goes on and on about how DC isn&#8217;t a sports town, but maybe that&#8217;s partly do in part to stations such as WTEM which cover little other than the Skins. </p>
<p>One of the reasons why I think WTEM is foolish is that not only do they fail to adequately cover/respect sports such as hockey and soccer, they also give paltry coverage to the Nats. The struggles of hockey and soccer are well documented, but these guys are so brainwashed by football that they don&#8217;t even pay attention to the city&#8217;s MLB team.</p>
<p>Baseball is one of the top 3 sports in the country, and those clowns won&#8217;t even cover that. They&#8217;d rather spend hours and hours talking about Redskin passing drills at March mini-camp than actually talk about something interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: The Forechecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Forechecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, but I do have to bring up one point:

&lt;i&gt;In your estimation, is it actually written in the heavens that New York, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Detroit (Detroit??) have been and always will be great sports towns, and that D.C. never can be?&lt;/i&gt;

Why the question about Detroit?  The Motor City is a great sports town, plain and simple.  The four pro majors are all covered well, and the newspapers boast a deep bench of talented, insightful columnists.  I've been away from there for 10 years, and miss the level of coverage more as time goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, but I do have to bring up one point:</p>
<p><i>In your estimation, is it actually written in the heavens that New York, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Detroit (Detroit??) have been and always will be great sports towns, and that D.C. never can be?</i></p>
<p>Why the question about Detroit?  The Motor City is a great sports town, plain and simple.  The four pro majors are all covered well, and the newspapers boast a deep bench of talented, insightful columnists.  I&#8217;ve been away from there for 10 years, and miss the level of coverage more as time goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: pucksandbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>pucksandbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>norske, your odds of finding someone who listens to WTEM are 8,900 in 5,286,227. In other words, don't hold your breath waiting on an answer to your question. But TEM has Al Koken, a thoughtful voice on hockey, and one or two others in house who aren't know-nothing haters. So it isn't a question of asking for more coverage by ignoramuses necessarily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>norske, your odds of finding someone who listens to WTEM are 8,900 in 5,286,227. In other words, don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting on an answer to your question. But TEM has Al Koken, a thoughtful voice on hockey, and one or two others in house who aren&#8217;t know-nothing haters. So it isn&#8217;t a question of asking for more coverage by ignoramuses necessarily.</p>
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		<title>By: norske</title>
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		<dc:creator>norske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't mind Ted's first blog entry on this -- I thought he made a good point, although most likely a futile one -- but he's been looking increasingly ridiculous as this has gone on.  Yesterday evening's rebuttal to Czaban was simply juvenile.  It was poorly written, and made no real point at all, except "Neener, neener".

I'm curious, though, about the "consistent ridicule" of the Caps I keep hearing about.  I used to be a regular listener of the Sports Reporters, and although I heard them ridicule Caps fans often (ridicule that we apparently deserve, as this whole flap illustrates), I never noticed much in the way of ridicule of the team itself. I have since stopped listening to the show, so I would like to know if this has changed.  Do they actually ridicule the Caps (as opposed to whiny Caps fans), and if so, what do they say?  (And no, I don't mean Czaban's cheap shot on his blog; I mean ridicule that was actually aired on the radio.)

And if they do actually ridicule the Caps, why on earth would anyone want more coverage from these guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mind Ted&#8217;s first blog entry on this &#8212; I thought he made a good point, although most likely a futile one &#8212; but he&#8217;s been looking increasingly ridiculous as this has gone on.  Yesterday evening&#8217;s rebuttal to Czaban was simply juvenile.  It was poorly written, and made no real point at all, except &#8220;Neener, neener&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, though, about the &#8220;consistent ridicule&#8221; of the Caps I keep hearing about.  I used to be a regular listener of the Sports Reporters, and although I heard them ridicule Caps fans often (ridicule that we apparently deserve, as this whole flap illustrates), I never noticed much in the way of ridicule of the team itself. I have since stopped listening to the show, so I would like to know if this has changed.  Do they actually ridicule the Caps (as opposed to whiny Caps fans), and if so, what do they say?  (And no, I don&#8217;t mean Czaban&#8217;s cheap shot on his blog; I mean ridicule that was actually aired on the radio.)</p>
<p>And if they do actually ridicule the Caps, why on earth would anyone want more coverage from these guys?</p>
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		<title>By: OrderedChaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>OrderedChaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's been said that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Perhaps that's true in politics, but it's certainly not the case in sports (just ask David Stern or Roger Goodell). 

For the NHL, silence from sports radio &#038; MSM â€” while by no means ideal â€” is still better than constant belittling. Non-hockey sports fans are basically being told that hockey is a joke; casual fans hearing nothing about hockey from the MSM would be preferable to MSM ridicule. 

So while not hearing about hockey on the radio is clearly disappointing... it's better than hockey being the punchline for some sophomoric jokester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said that there&#8217;s no such thing as bad publicity. Perhaps that&#8217;s true in politics, but it&#8217;s certainly not the case in sports (just ask David Stern or Roger Goodell). </p>
<p>For the NHL, silence from sports radio &#038; MSM â€” while by no means ideal â€” is still better than constant belittling. Non-hockey sports fans are basically being told that hockey is a joke; casual fans hearing nothing about hockey from the MSM would be preferable to MSM ridicule. </p>
<p>So while not hearing about hockey on the radio is clearly disappointing&#8230; it&#8217;s better than hockey being the punchline for some sophomoric jokester.</p>
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		<title>By: Shmee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldnt agree with you more - if they dont want to cover hockey, thats their choice (not that I agree with it at all). But do they have be just another talking head and bash hockey for the heck of it?

This bothers me particularly when I hear my friends/acquaintances, who dont know a thing about hockey, dismissing it out of hand because that is what the majority of the talkers out there are doing. It creates a hugely false and prejudiced view of hockey which makes it all the harder for me to convince a couple buddies to give hockey a chance and join me for a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldnt agree with you more - if they dont want to cover hockey, thats their choice (not that I agree with it at all). But do they have be just another talking head and bash hockey for the heck of it?</p>
<p>This bothers me particularly when I hear my friends/acquaintances, who dont know a thing about hockey, dismissing it out of hand because that is what the majority of the talkers out there are doing. It creates a hugely false and prejudiced view of hockey which makes it all the harder for me to convince a couple buddies to give hockey a chance and join me for a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely understand the lack of special interest coverage in sports radio.  I am a fan of an under-covered sport as well.  While it saddens me that we can never talk about it on the airwaves, I do understand why.  When listening to John Thompson's show, I notice that occasionally Al Koken heads-up and opens the lines to Caps talk.  These segments are usually short, but the call-ins are rarely substantive in number.  That indicates two things potenitally:  hockey fans don't listen to JT's show or there just aren't a ton of hockey fans per capita in the area.  Whichever is true, just as my sport (soccer), there is not alot of interest, and not enought to garner significant coverage.  I do try to get into hockey (via a puck-head co-worker), and thus I do enjoy reading this blog occasionally.  But if the airwaves had tremendous Caps coverage, I wouldn't listen much because I am not a hockey fan.  Nor am I a Redskin fan, but I do love football and thus, listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely understand the lack of special interest coverage in sports radio.  I am a fan of an under-covered sport as well.  While it saddens me that we can never talk about it on the airwaves, I do understand why.  When listening to John Thompson&#8217;s show, I notice that occasionally Al Koken heads-up and opens the lines to Caps talk.  These segments are usually short, but the call-ins are rarely substantive in number.  That indicates two things potenitally:  hockey fans don&#8217;t listen to JT&#8217;s show or there just aren&#8217;t a ton of hockey fans per capita in the area.  Whichever is true, just as my sport (soccer), there is not alot of interest, and not enought to garner significant coverage.  I do try to get into hockey (via a puck-head co-worker), and thus I do enjoy reading this blog occasionally.  But if the airwaves had tremendous Caps coverage, I wouldn&#8217;t listen much because I am not a hockey fan.  Nor am I a Redskin fan, but I do love football and thus, listen.</p>
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		<title>By: Off Wing Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Off Wing Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ted Leonsis And SportsTalk 980...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here in Washington, it's been hard to miss all the posts over at Ted's Take taking issue with the way......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ted Leonsis And SportsTalk 980&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here in Washington, it&#8217;s been hard to miss all the posts over at Ted&#8217;s Take taking issue with the way&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caps Nut</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33888</link>
		<dc:creator>Caps Nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when Ted indirectly compares WTEM's ratings to WHUR's and wondering why WTEM doesn't care about building the largest audience they possibly can and Czaban smacks him back into reality about targeted programming; it isn't valid to ask why Ted isn't trying to sell his product (the Caps that is) to the radio station with the highest ratings and listenership in the area?

In short, what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander right?  Do as I say you should not as I do right?

Uh, yeah...   Whatever you say boys...  Keep up the good work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when Ted indirectly compares WTEM&#8217;s ratings to WHUR&#8217;s and wondering why WTEM doesn&#8217;t care about building the largest audience they possibly can and Czaban smacks him back into reality about targeted programming; it isn&#8217;t valid to ask why Ted isn&#8217;t trying to sell his product (the Caps that is) to the radio station with the highest ratings and listenership in the area?</p>
<p>In short, what&#8217;s good for the goose isn&#8217;t good for the gander right?  Do as I say you should not as I do right?</p>
<p>Uh, yeah&#8230;   Whatever you say boys&#8230;  Keep up the good work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gustafsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustafsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;"pucksandbooks wrote: But thereâ€™s another basic issue Gus... "&lt;/em&gt;

No argument there.

Step one - stop blatantly ridiculing that which you do not know.
Step two - become the &lt;strong&gt;SPORTS&lt;/strong&gt; Reporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;pucksandbooks wrote: But thereâ€™s another basic issue Gus&#8230; &#8220;</em></p>
<p>No argument there.</p>
<p>Step one - stop blatantly ridiculing that which you do not know.<br />
Step two - become the <strong>SPORTS</strong> Reporters.</p>
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		<title>By: pucksandbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>pucksandbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there's another basic issue Gus: TEM's aplogists are alleging that the station is just "giving area sports fans what they want to hear." Really? TEM's reach is far and wide across the D.C. metropolitan statistical area, within which, the Census Bureau tells us, reside some 5,286,227 folks, many of whom are sports fans. And yet Ted pointed out that during ad-rate-rich evening drive and "The Sports Reporters," a grand total of 8,900 heartbeats are tuned in each evening -- or less than half the average home attendance of United. If TEM is so in tune with the market's sports urge, why are 99.9999 percent of DC-ers tuning out? How many instead are online reading about sports?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there&#8217;s another basic issue Gus: TEM&#8217;s aplogists are alleging that the station is just &#8220;giving area sports fans what they want to hear.&#8221; Really? TEM&#8217;s reach is far and wide across the D.C. metropolitan statistical area, within which, the Census Bureau tells us, reside some 5,286,227 folks, many of whom are sports fans. And yet Ted pointed out that during ad-rate-rich evening drive and &#8220;The Sports Reporters,&#8221; a grand total of 8,900 heartbeats are tuned in each evening &#8212; or less than half the average home attendance of United. If TEM is so in tune with the market&#8217;s sports urge, why are 99.9999 percent of DC-ers tuning out? How many instead are online reading about sports?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Gustafsson just articulated the point I failed to make. That said, I hope Ted does appear on his show.  If/when he does, I'll listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Gustafsson just articulated the point I failed to make. That said, I hope Ted does appear on his show.  If/when he does, I&#8217;ll listen.</p>
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		<title>By: OrderedChaos</title>
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		<dc:creator>OrderedChaos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maruk, LOVE the McCartney-covering-Monk analogy -- so vivid I shuddered and covered my ears. :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Strungout, anyone summing up the Capitals as "a bona fide mega-star in Alex Ovetchkin surrounded by a bunch of extras from the movie Slapshot" is an @sshat. Whether or not the "t" was intentional doesn't matter; it's unprofessional, as was his characterization of the team. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Capsnut, no idea what you're talking about -- nobody mentioned the Caps on WHUR (for good reason). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vogs said it best: XM. It's a shame that local radio doesn't take hockey or soccer seriously; but as local radio become increasingly irrelevant, so does their snide and dismissive coverage. XM!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maruk, LOVE the McCartney-covering-Monk analogy &#8212; so vivid I shuddered and covered my ears. <img src='http://www.onfrozenblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Strungout, anyone summing up the Capitals as &#8220;a bona fide mega-star in Alex Ovetchkin surrounded by a bunch of extras from the movie Slapshot&#8221; is an @sshat. Whether or not the &#8220;t&#8221; was intentional doesn&#8217;t matter; it&#8217;s unprofessional, as was his characterization of the team. </p>
<p>Capsnut, no idea what you&#8217;re talking about &#8212; nobody mentioned the Caps on WHUR (for good reason). </p>
<p>Vogs said it best: XM. It&#8217;s a shame that local radio doesn&#8217;t take hockey or soccer seriously; but as local radio become increasingly irrelevant, so does their snide and dismissive coverage. XM!</p>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work boys. Decent MSM sports coverage seems a little bit of the chicken and the egg scenario. Which happened first? All major sports coverage decreased or listener/viewer/readerships requesting Redskins coverage increased. 

The show is called the Sports reporters show why don't they report on sports instead of one sport, otherwise change the name of the show to Redskins Opined.

Perhaps their cumes would be even higher if they actually spoke about more than one team and one sport and perhaps the reason people tune out when they actually do speak about other sports is  because they are uninformed and offer little to the conversation. 

I certainly don't think Mr. Czaban purposefully misspelled Alex Ovechkin's name to make a point or to bait people in to retorts because journalistically a stronger point would be made if he actually spelled it correctly, I think he just misspelled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work boys. Decent MSM sports coverage seems a little bit of the chicken and the egg scenario. Which happened first? All major sports coverage decreased or listener/viewer/readerships requesting Redskins coverage increased. </p>
<p>The show is called the Sports reporters show why don&#8217;t they report on sports instead of one sport, otherwise change the name of the show to Redskins Opined.</p>
<p>Perhaps their cumes would be even higher if they actually spoke about more than one team and one sport and perhaps the reason people tune out when they actually do speak about other sports is  because they are uninformed and offer little to the conversation. </p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t think Mr. Czaban purposefully misspelled Alex Ovechkin&#8217;s name to make a point or to bait people in to retorts because journalistically a stronger point would be made if he actually spelled it correctly, I think he just misspelled it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustafsson</title>
		<link>http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2007/08/17/steve-czabin-steps-in-it/#comment-33870</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustafsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basic issue that stirred this up was not the matter of &lt;strong&gt;MORE&lt;/strong&gt; coverage, but rather going out of one's way to ridicule a sport and their fans.

Don't want to cover a sport? Fine.... but don't constantly ridicule it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basic issue that stirred this up was not the matter of <strong>MORE</strong> coverage, but rather going out of one&#8217;s way to ridicule a sport and their fans.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t want to cover a sport? Fine&#8230;. but don&#8217;t constantly ridicule it.</p>
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