Comments on: The OFB All-Time Five http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/ A Haven for the Hockey Malnourished Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:57:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: S. Turf http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-31629 S. Turf Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:38:04 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-31629 I like to say that hockey, for the most part, is a demanding enough season. Shouldn't the sport be called one of the most team oriented of sports. Whoa! I think you have a great deal of hockey dad's out there as much as you have your soccer mom's, truth be told. It's just in the blood I guess. I like to say that hockey, for the most part, is a demanding enough season. Shouldn’t the sport be called one of the most team oriented of sports. Whoa! I think you have a great deal of hockey dad’s out there as much as you have your soccer mom’s, truth be told. It’s just in the blood I guess.

]]> By: S. Turf http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-31628 S. Turf Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:34:00 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-31628 I haven't been able to know the greatest hockey players, if only by name. That hesitation for rooting and burning out brightly that goes along with most hockey players in the dumps is very very centralizing to the sport. I like to think dummerville "." I haven’t been able to know the greatest hockey players, if only by name. That hesitation for rooting and burning out brightly that goes along with most hockey players in the dumps is very very centralizing to the sport. I like to think dummerville “.”

]]> By: National Hockey League Digest » Second Carnival Of Hockey http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-2553 National Hockey League Digest » Second Carnival Of Hockey Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:03:07 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-2553 [...] On Frozen Blog also submitted their All-Time Five best players to line up at the start of an NHL Hockey game. There are some great argumenets for each of the line-ups they submitted. [...] [...] On Frozen Blog also submitted their All-Time Five best players to line up at the start of an NHL Hockey game. There are some great argumenets for each of the line-ups they submitted. [...]

]]> By: On Frozen Blog | If I Were a Hockey Player http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-1581 On Frozen Blog | If I Were a Hockey Player Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:44:28 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-1581 [...] Jes at Hockey Rants started a hockey meme this week with the theme “If I Were a Hockey Player”. This is somewhat similar to our OFB All-Time Five back in December where we solicited reader input and tallied the votes. Many hockey bloggers have joined in including: [...] [...] Jes at Hockey Rants started a hockey meme this week with the theme “If I Were a Hockey Player”. This is somewhat similar to our OFB All-Time Five back in December where we solicited reader input and tallied the votes. Many hockey bloggers have joined in including: [...]

]]> By: pepper http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-651 pepper Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:30:49 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-651 Allright. My two caveats are that (1) I'm picking those I've seen play (except for one, who I have read a lot about), and (2) I'm going to focus on those I think would have the drive, passion, reflexes and game vision, to finish it in a final minute. LW Alex Ovechkin. While at the beginning of his career (and destined to involve hoisting a Cup for the Caps) he is the one in a thousand player who skates with reckless abandon every shift and has the winning instinct. I know he's young, and his selection has obviously resulted in criticism as a result of not having even made the playoffs, but for those who have seen him several times in person, he is for real. I mean tripping over bad ice skating so fast for real. And compensating nevertheless with jaw-dropping pivoting and stick work. RW Maurice Richard. Perhaps obviously, the one I've never seen. But the stories I have read, in both languages, lead me to believe that he'd be the guy you want to punch it home in that final minute. C Doug Gilmour. Perhaps a sentimental selection, he remains my favorite non-Cap I've ever seen. He'll, naturally, win the draw, skate toward the net, establish the ideal position quickly for a deflection, poke-in, rebound for the shot drawn back to . . . Oh, you didn't say which side for the faceoff, or offense / defense. Ok, nevertheless, on D we have Brian Leetch Rod Langway Rod is going to ensure that any puck that crosses the defensive blue line is going to make its way into friendly hands, or that the opponent with it will relinquish it and be pinned solidly against the boards. Brian will deftly take it up ice and zing a crisp pass to any of the forwards, or perhaps take it himself, down a wing, behind the net, whatever, until a clear scoring opportunity awaits. If, perchance, this stellar 5 allows a shot on goal, I defer to G Martin Brodeur. Can we say that the understudy has surpassed the teacher, St. Patrick? With that 6 player tandem, I have no doubt of victory on a last minute effort. :) Allright.

My two caveats are that (1) I’m picking those I’ve seen play (except for one, who I have read a lot about), and (2) I’m going to focus on those I think would have the drive, passion, reflexes and game vision, to finish it in a final minute.

LW Alex Ovechkin.

While at the beginning of his career (and destined to involve hoisting a Cup for the Caps) he is the one in a thousand player who skates with reckless abandon every shift and has the winning instinct. I know he’s young, and his selection has obviously resulted in criticism as a result of not having even made the playoffs, but for those who have seen him several times in person, he is for real. I mean tripping over bad ice skating so fast for real. And compensating nevertheless with jaw-dropping pivoting and stick work.

RW Maurice Richard.

Perhaps obviously, the one I’ve never seen. But the stories I have read, in both languages, lead me to believe that he’d be the guy you want to punch it home in that final minute.

C Doug Gilmour.

Perhaps a sentimental selection, he remains my favorite non-Cap I’ve ever seen. He’ll, naturally, win the draw, skate toward the net, establish the ideal position quickly for a deflection, poke-in, rebound for the shot drawn back to . . .

Oh, you didn’t say which side for the faceoff, or offense / defense.

Ok, nevertheless, on D we have

Brian Leetch
Rod Langway

Rod is going to ensure that any puck that crosses the defensive blue line is going to make its way into friendly hands, or that the opponent with it will relinquish it and be pinned solidly against the boards.

Brian will deftly take it up ice and zing a crisp pass to any of the forwards, or perhaps take it himself, down a wing, behind the net, whatever, until a clear scoring opportunity awaits.

If, perchance, this stellar 5 allows a shot on goal, I defer to

G Martin Brodeur.

Can we say that the understudy has surpassed the teacher, St. Patrick?

With that 6 player tandem, I have no doubt of victory on a last minute effort.

:)

]]> By: On Frozen Blog | The OFB All-Time Five: One Week Remaining http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-638 On Frozen Blog | The OFB All-Time Five: One Week Remaining Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:00:57 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-638 [...] Here’s a reminder that we are still accepting entries for the OFB All Time Five through midnight of Christmas Eve. Then, with a Christmas morning cup of joe, we'll announce an OFB All Time Five, plus their goalie, based on reader comment/selections merged with our own. We have had some great input and discussion thus far, so make sure you’re not left out. [...] [...] Here’s a reminder that we are still accepting entries for the OFB All Time Five through midnight of Christmas Eve. Then, with a Christmas morning cup of joe, we’ll announce an OFB All Time Five, plus their goalie, based on reader comment/selections merged with our own. We have had some great input and discussion thus far, so make sure you’re not left out. [...]

]]> By: Meza http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-630 Meza Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:25:54 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-630 This was a tough task, I racked my brain to come up with my 5. The 5 I would want to go into battle with to get my name on the silver chalice of lore. Left Wing Jari Kurri Center The Great One Right Wing Marcel Dionne Defense Ray Bourque Paul Coffey Netminder Lorne "Gump" Worsley This was a tough task, I racked my brain to come up with my 5. The 5 I would want to go into battle with to get my name on the silver chalice of lore.

Left Wing
Jari Kurri

Center
The Great One

Right Wing
Marcel Dionne

Defense
Ray Bourque
Paul Coffey

Netminder
Lorne “Gump” Worsley

]]> By: Swiftblade http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-517 Swiftblade Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:41:21 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-517 *made more impossible saves... *made more impossible saves…

]]> By: Swiftblade http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-516 Swiftblade Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:40:30 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-516 C - Sakic (Sakic is prime time, 7 OT winners in his career!) LW - Ovechkin (He can pull the trigger like few others) RW - Bossy (You know he wont leave anything on the ice) D - Lidstrom (whether you're up a goal or down a goal, he's my man) D - Coffey (Can pinch if Lidstrom patrols the line) G - Hasek (He's more impossible saves than any other goalie I've seen) C - Sakic (Sakic is prime time, 7 OT winners in his career!)
LW - Ovechkin (He can pull the trigger like few others)
RW - Bossy (You know he wont leave anything on the ice)
D - Lidstrom (whether you’re up a goal or down a goal, he’s my man)
D - Coffey (Can pinch if Lidstrom patrols the line)
G - Hasek (He’s more impossible saves than any other goalie I’ve seen)

]]> By: Blue Collar NHL http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-514 Blue Collar NHL Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:12:12 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-514 G - Dominik Hasek D - Bobby Orr D - Ray Bourque L - Jari Kurri C - Mark Messier R - Mike Bossy G - Dominik Hasek
D - Bobby Orr
D - Ray Bourque
L - Jari Kurri
C - Mark Messier
R - Mike Bossy

]]> By: stone http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-498 stone Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:49:34 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-498 For the record, that last post was made somewhat tongue-in-cheeck. But seriously, those are some of the best playoff performers in the history of hockey. Looking back I might replace Yzerman with Messier given the overall theme of my forwards, but I was a huge RedWings fan back before the Sharks were a legit hockey team. For the record, that last post was made somewhat tongue-in-cheeck. But seriously, those are some of the best playoff performers in the history of hockey. Looking back I might replace Yzerman with Messier given the overall theme of my forwards, but I was a huge RedWings fan back before the Sharks were a legit hockey team.

]]> By: stone http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-497 stone Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:26:03 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-497 To me, being tied makes this a very different question than if we were trailing by a goal. In a tie game... Claude Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, Darren McCarty Nicklas Lidstrom, Scott Stevens Patrick Roy Find me a more defensively responsible, harder to play against, set of five. By the way, they have all been Conn Smythe winners with the exception of McCarty (3 cups, one cup clinching goal) (yea claude and darren, i know. but on the same team they would get along, and claude will agree to play left wing) Of course down a goal would be something like: Bobby, Wayne, Gordie Bobby, Al Patrick To me, being tied makes this a very different question than if we were trailing by a goal.

In a tie game…
Claude Lemieux, Steve Yzerman, Darren McCarty
Nicklas Lidstrom, Scott Stevens
Patrick Roy

Find me a more defensively responsible, harder to play against, set of five. By the way, they have all been Conn Smythe winners with the exception of McCarty (3 cups, one cup clinching goal)

(yea claude and darren, i know. but on the same team they would get along, and claude will agree to play left wing)

Of course down a goal would be something like:
Bobby, Wayne, Gordie
Bobby, Al
Patrick

]]> By: reel coach http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-496 reel coach Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:10:33 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-496 C-Messier LW-Luc Robittaille RW-Guy Lafluer D-Bobby Orr D-Al Iafrate (106 MPH W/ wood) G-Pat Roy C-Messier
LW-Luc Robittaille
RW-Guy Lafluer
D-Bobby Orr
D-Al Iafrate (106 MPH W/ wood)
G-Pat Roy

]]> By: Grooven http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-488 Grooven Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:59:09 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-488 The team I didn't see part of: LW Bobby Hull C J.H. Richard RW Mike Bossy D Ray Bourque D Larry Murphy G I'm torn between G. Vezina (just think how well he would have played if he wasn't required by league rules to stay standing) and the founder of the butterfly Tony Esposito. I'll come up with a team I did see in its entirety. The team I didn’t see part of:
LW Bobby Hull
C J.H. Richard
RW Mike Bossy
D Ray Bourque
D Larry Murphy

G I’m torn between G. Vezina (just think how well he would have played if he wasn’t required by league rules to stay standing) and the founder of the butterfly Tony Esposito.

I’ll come up with a team I did see in its entirety.

]]> By: BeN http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-487 BeN Sat, 09 Dec 2006 23:16:01 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-487 all time greatest starting line up for me is: Maurice 'Rocket' Richard - Mario Lemieux - Guy Lafleur Bobby Orr - Raymond Bourque Patrick Roy all time greatest starting line up for me is:

Maurice ‘Rocket’ Richard - Mario Lemieux - Guy Lafleur

Bobby Orr - Raymond Bourque

Patrick Roy

]]> By: Martin St Louis http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-474 Martin St Louis Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:18:56 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-474 Thank you!:) Thank you!:)

]]> By: OrderedChaos http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-472 OrderedChaos Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:08:46 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-472 Good choice Spark -- Bobby Hull would have been my LW too if I hadn't restricted my picks to guys I've seen play (i.e., more than just the occasional grainy highlight clip). Good choice Spark — Bobby Hull would have been my LW too if I hadn’t restricted my picks to guys I’ve seen play (i.e., more than just the occasional grainy highlight clip).

]]> By: spark http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-471 spark Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:03:52 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-471 Well, since my name isn't Mike Keenan I suppose I'll have to drop Bossy in favour of one or the other Hull's. I'll go with the consensus and say Bobby. Well, since my name isn’t Mike Keenan I suppose I’ll have to drop Bossy in favour of one or the other Hull’s. I’ll go with the consensus and say Bobby.

]]> By: OrderedChaos http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-469 OrderedChaos Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:17:48 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-469 Martin, my apologies, I stand corrected! I found this tidbit on Wikipedia: "With time running out in regulation in Game 3, and after coming back from a 3-0 deficit, Team Canada coach Mike Keenan sent the Gretzky/Lemieux/Hawerchuk line out to play, with a faceoff in Canada's end. The rest is history as Gretzky, Lemieux and Larry Murphy would rush down the ice on a three on one after Hawerchuk tripped up Bykov, with Gretzky skating on left wing, setting up Lemieux's point blank game-winner in the slot with 1:26 left in the game. The Gretzky to Lemieux play is one of the most memorable plays in Canadian hockey history." So even though your three forwards all played centre in the NHL, they did indeed play as one amazing line with exactly the result for which one would hope. Damned good call! Martin, my apologies, I stand corrected! I found this tidbit on Wikipedia:

“With time running out in regulation in Game 3, and after coming back from a 3-0 deficit, Team Canada coach Mike Keenan sent the Gretzky/Lemieux/Hawerchuk line out to play, with a faceoff in Canada’s end. The rest is history as Gretzky, Lemieux and Larry Murphy would rush down the ice on a three on one after Hawerchuk tripped up Bykov, with Gretzky skating on left wing, setting up Lemieux’s point blank game-winner in the slot with 1:26 left in the game. The Gretzky to Lemieux play is one of the most memorable plays in Canadian hockey history.”

So even though your three forwards all played centre in the NHL, they did indeed play as one amazing line with exactly the result for which one would hope. Damned good call!

]]> By: Martin St Louis http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-468 Martin St Louis Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:47:17 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-468 Dear Ordered Chaos, All i have to say is did you see the 1987 Canada Cup? "OrderedChaos wrote: Martin, I love the All-Canada concept. But all three of your forwards are Centres, so that doesn't work! You've got to pick your favorite C (not easy among those three, that's for sure), then get a RW and LW to round out your line. " Dear Ordered Chaos,
All i have to say is did you see the 1987 Canada Cup?

“OrderedChaos wrote:

Martin, I love the All-Canada concept. But all three of your forwards are Centres, so that doesn’t work! You’ve got to pick your favorite C (not easy among those three, that’s for sure), then get a RW and LW to round out your line. “

]]> By: Mike Lurie http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-466 Mike Lurie Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:21:35 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-466 Cam Neely Wayne Gretzky Maurice Richard Denis Potvin Bobby Orr Ed Giacomin Cam Neely Wayne Gretzky Maurice Richard
Denis Potvin Bobby Orr
Ed Giacomin

]]> By: TG http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-463 TG Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:47:07 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-463 Messier. Messier, Messier, Messier! (Or, as he's known in our household, "Mr. Clean") How many Cups did Gretzky win without Messier? How many Cups did Messier win without Gretzky? C'mon, in a Game 7, who would you truly want out there, Gretzky or Messier? Were the Rangers REALLY better than New Jersey in 1994? Or did Messier just refuse to lose? (The high point for the Rangers until 2048...) Messier. Messier, Messier, Messier! (Or, as he’s known in our household, “Mr. Clean”) How many Cups did Gretzky win without Messier? How many Cups did Messier win without Gretzky? C’mon, in a Game 7, who would you truly want out there, Gretzky or Messier? Were the Rangers REALLY better than New Jersey in 1994? Or did Messier just refuse to lose? (The high point for the Rangers until 2048…)

]]> By: jeffj http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-461 jeffj Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:47:25 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-461 Bobby Hull, Gretzky, Richard Harvey, Orr Sawchuk The other team has: Brett Hull, Mario, Howe (Brett can play the left side - that's where he scored most of his goals anyway) Shore, Bourque Plante Wayne loses the faceoff. Orr pinches unsuccessfully and the opposition springs a 3-on-1. Mario gains the blueline, drops it for Howe. The Rocket, backchecking furiously, catches Howe cutting into the middle and destroys him with an open ice hit. Brett collects the loose puck but he can't pass and Harvey stops the remaining 2-on-1, textbook. Harvey finds Wayne curling in the neutral zone. Gretzky and Hull, 2-on-1 against Shore. Wayne looks to shoot then glides a feed to Hull for the one-timer. The blast blows through the mesh of Plante's trapper, through the mesh in the top left corner of the net, through the glass and is lodged in the goal judge's forehead. Howe over the Rocket?? Maybe over a career, but no way in a one-shift-takes-all scenario. Honestly, you people. Look at their playoff numbers! Bobby Hull, Gretzky, Richard

Harvey, Orr

Sawchuk

The other team has:

Brett Hull, Mario, Howe (Brett can play the left side - that’s where he scored most of his goals anyway)

Shore, Bourque

Plante

Wayne loses the faceoff. Orr pinches unsuccessfully and the opposition springs a 3-on-1. Mario gains the blueline, drops it for Howe. The Rocket, backchecking furiously, catches Howe cutting into the middle and destroys him with an open ice hit. Brett collects the loose puck but he can’t pass and Harvey stops the remaining 2-on-1, textbook. Harvey finds Wayne curling in the neutral zone. Gretzky and Hull, 2-on-1 against Shore. Wayne looks to shoot then glides a feed to Hull for the one-timer. The blast blows through the mesh of Plante’s trapper, through the mesh in the top left corner of the net, through the glass and is lodged in the goal judge’s forehead.

Howe over the Rocket?? Maybe over a career, but no way in a one-shift-takes-all scenario. Honestly, you people. Look at their playoff numbers!

]]> By: ForumICE http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-456 ForumICE Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:23:54 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-456 OK so now that Ive thought about it, I have my starting line up. Left wing: Bobby Hull Center: Gretzky Right Wing: Howe Defense: Orr and Bourque Goal: Roy there is no touching this line up. OK so now that Ive thought about it, I have my starting line up.

Left wing: Bobby Hull
Center: Gretzky
Right Wing: Howe
Defense: Orr and Bourque
Goal: Roy

there is no touching this line up.

]]> By: OrderedChaos http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-455 OrderedChaos Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:49:19 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-455 Martin, I love the All-Canada concept. But all three of your forwards are Centres, so that doesn't work! You've got to pick your favorite C (not easy among those three, that's for sure), then get a RW and LW to round out your line. Martin, I love the All-Canada concept. But all three of your forwards are Centres, so that doesn’t work! You’ve got to pick your favorite C (not easy among those three, that’s for sure), then get a RW and LW to round out your line.

]]> By: OrderedChaos http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-454 OrderedChaos Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:41:08 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-454 Spark and Mellyville, good comments. But you both chose two RW and no LW. Howe, Bossy, and Brett Hull were all right wings. Now if you chose BOBBY Hull as LW, that would work. Other than Bobby Hull, whom I eliminated for my own lineup due to my only-players-I've-seen restriction, the pickings at LW are surprisingly thin IMO. Spark and Mellyville, good comments. But you both chose two RW and no LW. Howe, Bossy, and Brett Hull were all right wings. Now if you chose BOBBY Hull as LW, that would work. Other than Bobby Hull, whom I eliminated for my own lineup due to my only-players-I’ve-seen restriction, the pickings at LW are surprisingly thin IMO.

]]> By: Mellyville9 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-453 Mellyville9 Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:29:29 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-453 BRETT Hull (Greatest Right Winger of ALL time. The Golden Brett) Wayne Gretzky (the GREAT ONE) Gordie Howe (MR HOCKEY) Nicklas Lidstrom ( arguably the greatest all around D of all time) Bobby Orr ( greatest offensive defensman of all time) Patrick Roy (Dont even need to comment) I agree that there is no way I can nominate Ovechkin after one season on a last place team. I am a die hard lifetime Caps fan but still cannot put him up there yet with the names posted above. BRETT Hull (Greatest Right Winger of ALL time. The Golden Brett)
Wayne Gretzky (the GREAT ONE)
Gordie Howe (MR HOCKEY)
Nicklas Lidstrom ( arguably the greatest all around D of all time)
Bobby Orr ( greatest offensive defensman of all time)
Patrick Roy (Dont even need to comment)

I agree that there is no way I can nominate Ovechkin after one season on a last place team. I am a die hard lifetime Caps fan but still cannot put him up there yet with the names posted above.

]]> By: Martin St Louis http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-452 Martin St Louis Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:27:30 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-452 Now in no way am I dissing the players you all have selected. All outstanding players. However, i have chosen a route more how you say.... Canadian! (it's been proved to work) i'll go with team canada scoring line: d. hawerchuk m. lemieux w.gretzky paul coffey bobby orr patty roy O Canada! Now in no way am I dissing the players you all have selected. All outstanding players. However, i have chosen a route more how you say…. Canadian! (it’s been proved to work)

i’ll go with team canada scoring line:

d. hawerchuk m. lemieux w.gretzky
paul coffey bobby orr
patty roy

O Canada!

]]> By: spark http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-451 spark Thu, 07 Dec 2006 04:06:05 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-451 Scott Stevens tallied 72 with the 87/88 Capitals, with another 11 points in 12 games during the playoffs. He also scored 78 points in 93/94, with another 11 in 20 playoff games. I'd guess those numbers translate to about 50-55 points nowadays. A scoring slouch he was not. It all depends on when one considers Scott Stevens <i>prime</i>. My five: Mike Bossy, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe, Scott Stevens, Bobby Orr, Patrick Roy Scott Stevens tallied 72 with the 87/88 Capitals, with another 11 points in 12 games during the playoffs. He also scored 78 points in 93/94, with another 11 in 20 playoff games. I’d guess those numbers translate to about 50-55 points nowadays. A scoring slouch he was not. It all depends on when one considers Scott Stevens prime.

My five: Mike Bossy, Mario Lemieux, Gordie Howe, Scott Stevens, Bobby Orr, Patrick Roy

]]> By: TG http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-449 TG Thu, 07 Dec 2006 01:43:51 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-449 If I'm sticking with players I've seen, and I'm looking for a goal, how about Brett Hull, Oates, Shanahan, Niedermeyer and MacInnis. Of course, Messier could simply will the team to a goal. Jagr (I'm assuming it's the interested one here) always seemed to find a way to do well in the playoffs. And if we're talking solely playoffs here, what about Claude Lemieux? If I’m sticking with players I’ve seen, and I’m looking for a goal, how about Brett Hull, Oates, Shanahan, Niedermeyer and MacInnis. Of course, Messier could simply will the team to a goal. Jagr (I’m assuming it’s the interested one here) always seemed to find a way to do well in the playoffs. And if we’re talking solely playoffs here, what about Claude Lemieux?

]]> By: ForumICE http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-445 ForumICE Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:49:53 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-445 Ok "Empty Maybe" IMO is the only one who came close to making the cut here. Forgive me, this is all off the top of my head so I may forget someone. These are the only names that should even be considered for each position. In order: Goal: Roy Sawchuck Plante Defense: Orr Bourque Coffey Harvey Center: Gretzky Lemieux Left Wing: Hull Shutt Robitaille Right Wing Lafleur Howe Like I said, off the top of my head. Good job guys. Ok “Empty Maybe” IMO is the only one who came close to making the cut here. Forgive me, this is all off the top of my head so I may forget someone. These are the only names that should even be considered for each position.

In order:
Goal:
Roy
Sawchuck
Plante

Defense:
Orr
Bourque
Coffey
Harvey

Center:
Gretzky
Lemieux

Left Wing:
Hull
Shutt
Robitaille

Right Wing
Lafleur
Howe

Like I said, off the top of my head.

Good job guys.

]]> By: OrderedChaos http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-443 OrderedChaos Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:42:29 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-443 Forecheck, Bobby Hull is clearly a great pick, but he was borderline for me due to my self-imposed restriction of selecting only players I've seen play. Same reason I eliminated the clear #1 D-man, Bobby Orr -- the only time I saw either of those Bobbys play was in the occasional highlight clip, never a full game. I know, my loss! Forecheck, Bobby Hull is clearly a great pick, but he was borderline for me due to my self-imposed restriction of selecting only players I’ve seen play. Same reason I eliminated the clear #1 D-man, Bobby Orr — the only time I saw either of those Bobbys play was in the occasional highlight clip, never a full game. I know, my loss!

]]> By: pucksandbooks http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-442 pucksandbooks Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:49:45 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-442 Forechecker - your observation about Ovechkin's inexperience is something the three of us who selected him certainly deliberated over, and it's an eminently reasonable criticism. I will speak only for myself in defense: for me, when at 16 he led the World Juniors in scoring, in Canada, that for me announced his arrival to hockey's big-time . . . it was with that tournament in mind -- regarded by many in the industry today as hockey's best and most pretigious -- that I WET MY PANTS that delicious April afternoon in 2004 when we learned that the ping pong ball had landed our way at the NHL's New York office. And he's done nothing since to diminish my enthusiasm. Hindsight of course aids greatly in endeavors like these. And with that in mind, were I to have chosen Wayne Gretzky as my center, you know when I'd have been prepared to make that call? After his 517 points in 85 games . . . as a 10-year-old in Ontario. Forechecker - your observation about Ovechkin’s inexperience is something the three of us who selected him certainly deliberated over, and it’s an eminently reasonable criticism. I will speak only for myself in defense: for me, when at 16 he led the World Juniors in scoring, in Canada, that for me announced his arrival to hockey’s big-time . . . it was with that tournament in mind — regarded by many in the industry today as hockey’s best and most pretigious — that I WET MY PANTS that delicious April afternoon in 2004 when we learned that the ping pong ball had landed our way at the NHL’s New York office. And he’s done nothing since to diminish my enthusiasm. Hindsight of course aids greatly in endeavors like these. And with that in mind, were I to have chosen Wayne Gretzky as my center, you know when I’d have been prepared to make that call? After his 517 points in 85 games . . . as a 10-year-old in Ontario.

]]> By: Brad http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-441 Brad Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:44:47 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-441 I agree with TG and would want either Larry Murphy (4 cups with two teams) or Paul Coffey in his Oiler days guarding the blue line and putting some shots on net instead of Scott Stevens. It is totally a homer pick but I would go with Lemieux in his prime at center. I haven't watched any other player so much as he was one of the reasons I fell in love with hockey. I've seen him perform so many miracles on ice that there isn't anyone I'd rather have on the ice at the end of a Game 7 or any other time for that matter. (Did I mention he was a homer pick?) Roy in goal and you just can't lose. Great topic and a great site. Thanks for passing the link on to me. Cheers. I agree with TG and would want either Larry Murphy (4 cups with two teams) or Paul Coffey in his Oiler days guarding the blue line and putting some shots on net instead of Scott Stevens. It is totally a homer pick but I would go with Lemieux in his prime at center. I haven’t watched any other player so much as he was one of the reasons I fell in love with hockey. I’ve seen him perform so many miracles on ice that there isn’t anyone I’d rather have on the ice at the end of a Game 7 or any other time for that matter. (Did I mention he was a homer pick?) Roy in goal and you just can’t lose.

Great topic and a great site. Thanks for passing the link on to me. Cheers.

]]> By: The Forechecker http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-440 The Forechecker Wed, 06 Dec 2006 03:35:32 +0000 http://www.onfrozenblog.com/2006/12/05/the-ofb-all-time-five/#comment-440 How anybody can nominate Ovechkin at this point is beyond me... for all we know, he'll wet his pants in a Game 7. He hasn't proven himself in the playoffs yet. I'll take Bobby Hull, Wayne Gretzky, and Gordie Howe up front, Bobby Orr and Nick Lidstrom on the blue line, and Dominick Hasek in net. How anybody can nominate Ovechkin at this point is beyond me… for all we know, he’ll wet his pants in a Game 7. He hasn’t proven himself in the playoffs yet.

I’ll take Bobby Hull, Wayne Gretzky, and Gordie Howe up front, Bobby Orr and Nick Lidstrom on the blue line, and Dominick Hasek in net.

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